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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 280 points 1 week ago

Good intentions, implementation, and results here, but seriously folks, think VERY carefully about what you're doing when you tamper with something someone's putting in their body.

Do not try at home to the nth degree.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 week ago

implying anyone on 4chan gives a shit about consent

this made me really uncomfortable too, also its extremely fake, you can't 'take apart' a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic), and no one on 4chan has a girlfriend (lol)

[-] towerful@programming.dev 75 points 1 week ago

You can take apart juice bottles.
The least realistic part is that anon managed to get to and dilute every bottle their gf used.
Cause if they miss one, their gf is gonna have a serious shock.

So, lack of consent and extremely controlling?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Or, as everything else, is fake and gay

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[-] H4mi@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

I take apart mine every time I buy one. To add nicotine. Maybe there are different kinds of bottles? I’ve never seen one where the top is not detachable.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Juice maker here: the tops are all detachable.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe the ones you use can't be taken apart but dont assume the whole world aligns to your image of it

Just be open to things possibly being different to what you experience them to be

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

also its extremely fake, you can't 'take apart' a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic),

What sketchy cheap shit are you using? I've used a vape for a decade now, and you can remove the nipple cape on every single bottle.

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[-] Prunebutt 44 points 1 week ago

Instructions unclear. Afraid to cook for gf now.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago

yeah using some random "cutting solution" is how you end up with Honey Cut 2.0

[-] turtlepower@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago

You don't use a random cutting solution, you use the same juice with no nicotine. A lot of juice makers offer 0 nic versions for people that want to just enjoy the act and flavor of vaping without the addiction, and for this specific purpose of cutting the nic level because they only offer certain increments (usually 3%, 6%, 12%), which may be too high for one's personal preference.

[-] gila@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Just as a thought experiment, what you'd really wanna do is change the salt nic formulation, i.e. the acidic compound which is added to freebase nicotine to convert it to a salt. This directly shapes the pharmacokinetics of the resulting nicotinic effect from vaping it, which is what leads to the common knowledge that salt nic hits harder, but doesn't last as long as freebase. That isn't universally true at all, but is a result of the salt formulations that are popular in the market.

I worked with a scientist that once formulated a 20mg/mL solution for me that had similar throat hit to the 40mg/mL products I was using & had a very steep onset curve, and I found it to still be very satisfying even immediately after swapping. It wasn't a successful product though because for the consumer, 20mg = 20mg & 40mg = 40mg

Guess my point is that the novel ways of using tech to improve weaning off nicotine using vaping do legitimately exist, but they don't have a place in a free market so we won't have it while regulators stay luddites on the issue

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[-] criitz@reddthat.com 107 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is BS. By the third or fourth bottle shed be like wtf is up with this juice?

(This reduction method helped me quit, but it's not imperceptible like that)

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago

I tapered off vaping using the same method, and there is a clear difference in the feeling of a pull when you cut the nicotine down. Also, you can't just "cut" the nicotine, you'd have to find some way to enhance the flavor of the diluted mix otherwise it will just get more bland. All of that being said, this is a valid strategy for kicking it. Just buy lower nicotine content bottles until you get down to 0% nic, and if your your experience is like mine, you just wake up one day and don't reach for the vape on the nightstand.

[-] turtlepower@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

As far as it being bland, that's why you get the same flavor juice with 0 nicotine and cut it with that. It does reduce the "throat hit" (that feeling you're talking about), but you still get the full flavor.

[-] Zekas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Mixed my own until I quit. You have to be vaping the exact same shit constantly to have the taste so dialled in. If it's this slow a taper you're never going to be notice from one week to the other. And while I didn't use a ton, shortfills seemed fine to use with or without nicotine added. Just add less or replace with unflavoured liquid.

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[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

It's also BS because it is 4chan and a lot of their posts are untrue and homosexual.

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[-] gila@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

If they were vaping a whole 30ml bottle @ 50mg/mL per week, yeah probably. That's a pretty extreme dependency. I don't know anyone ingesting that much nic, after 7 years in vape industry / over a decade vaping myself. I'm not in the US though, Juul kinda fucked things up over there

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[-] grrgyle 81 points 1 week ago

This is literally how I quit, except I did it intentionally.

But this is fake because the jump from 0.001 to 0.000 was like the ground disappearing beneath my feet.

For the previous week I was only using 0 nic juice in a pod that previously held a tiny amount of nic (we're talking trace amounts near the end - I wasn't feeling a thing).

Anyway I thought I was going through withdrawal so hard with the 0 nic in the used pod, but NOPE switch to 0 nic in a fresh pod and it was like "welcome to withdrawal 2."

Still really happy I quit though. It's so great not going into a panick whenever I misplace my vape for like 42 seconds. That was always so fucking humbling.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Finally, some hard evidence for homeopathy

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[-] P0rkduck@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

I've also done this to quit vaping. I've quit cold turkey a couple times, but diluting like this was by far easier for me. Still difficult, especially when going to zero nic, but it worked.

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[-] red@sopuli.xyz 69 points 1 week ago

50% nic lmao. Fake as hell.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago

OP probably means 50mg which is standard high concentration nic salts (freebase is most commonly 3mg). People often mistake mg for percentage in vaping.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

But they claimed to have used dilution formulas to achieve these percentages. Pretty sure it's BS.

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[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago

everyone i know calls 50mg "50%"

everyone.

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

I've vaped since 2013 and have literally never heard of this. Could be regional 💁‍♂️

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

probably is. personally never heard anything other than percentages

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

50mg is also a metric fucton of nic in a vape. My strong mixes are 13mg, and low nic is 4mg.

[-] spaceguy5234@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

My wife uses 50mg saltnic, it's crazy. I tried hitting it once and dear god my head was spinning.

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[-] Chippyr@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

Other than being blatantly fake this is really nice.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It is okay to assume something is real when it doesn't hurt anyone. :)

Cause maybe, juuust maybe, this story will help someone else.

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[-] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago

Anon sounds like a genuinely good partner

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[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 49 points 1 week ago

And then the gf decides she wants to try a new flavor, buys her "normal" nic strength, and fills her vape up with it before anon has a chance to dilute it.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

This would actually work out fine because she'd get he new bottle, hit it as hard as she did with her diluted bottles, then to proceed to throw up. The nausea alone from nicotine overdose should be a decent deterrent.

[-] efstajas@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As someone who "quit" nicotine and picked it up again later multiple times... The first hit after a while felt amazing every time. Unfortunately. No nausea at all.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago

Isnt fine tuning tour dosage literally the point of vapes? There are a lot of fluids with different levels of nicotine. Also from 50% you would fucking die. Its probably 50mg.

[-] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't she just use it more often and ultimately get roughly the same dose?

[-] gila@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

It's possible, but frequency is determined by more factors than simply relief from nicotine withdrawal. It's also possible that reducing concentration very slightly doesn't change the overall equation enough to actually drive behavioral change. But I'd agree that outcomes are better secured with conscious intent. I think quitting successfully and meaningfully means learning resilience against compulsion to engage in behaviors driven by chemical reactions in the brain, which this approach doesn't do at all.

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[-] venoft@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Diluting 50 times you'd need one hell of an amount of "dilution formula".

[-] Manzas@lemdro.id 12 points 1 week ago
[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Pure water will work for a couple of percentage points but above that will not work properly because atomisers expect a certain range of viscosity or they won't wick properly. It's generally a mix of propylene glycol, glycerine, and water. More glycerine means more clouds, natural sweetness, and annoying hygroscopy (i.e. you'll get a dry mouth), while PG is an aroma carrier, less sweet, quite a bit less hygroscopic. It's also the standard solvent for nicotine and aroma, not just vape aromas most food aromas are PG-based, too. Water is there to make the liquid less viscous and/or reduce hygroscopy of the overall mixture.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

It's eazy to buy:

10 liters - you will never need to buy again.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For those who literally just got a pic in Russian - this is a 10L (12,5kg) canister of 99,8% pure food-grade glycerol

Автор, не забывай, что по-русски тут почти никто не говорит :D

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 14 points 1 week ago

How long does it takes to vape a bottle?

[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 14 points 1 week ago

How big a bottle and how efficient the vape? When I did regularly if I recall a 30 ml bottle would last about a week. That switching from a pack/day smoking for comparison of volume.

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The story is a bit controlling/manipulative in my opinion. Even if the net outcome is good I'd feel like I was overstepping a boundary if I did this to my partner.

[-] Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It sounds so freaking fake too.

Tbh, I hope it's real and this woman is free from vape addiction. There's a question here about boundaries but what strikes me the most is that I can't take it seriously. The tone is just so characteristic of these 4chan green texts. No details, no heart. Straight to the point. Short enough to get a bunch of upvotes.

He wrote it like it's a simple story that happened within a week. It just feels manufactured

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