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[–] shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com 189 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Fuck this human

Tldr; Asshole used encrypted everything and Tor to create and spread csam. Government isn't disclosing how they caught him

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 107 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you distribute encrypted materials you also need to distribute a means of decryption. I'm willing to bet a honeypot was used to trick him into distributing his csam right to the government hinself.

[–] shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True. Or it could have been a backdoor in his phone, or the full running browser in his sim card, or the backdoor into his CPU chips... Maybe they do old fashioned police work for these cases and only use the pegasus spyware for others?

Pretty silly to do anything illegal on a computer when we know how flawed they are, imo

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 96 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Neither Tor nor end-to-end encrypted messengers will cover the endpoints. It's possible that they caught him using good old fashioned detective work. You don't need a software back door for that.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well it probably wasn't a Vic Mackey-style rubber hose attack, because it sounds like this chump is getting hauled into court.

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[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

He didn’t use encrypted everything. He had a public telegram group chat in which he stored a lot of his material. Which, as many people in the comments on the article pointed out, is not encrypted, but is presented by telegram as if it is. That’s likely how they caught him.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 110 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This whole thing is horrifying, but the last paragraph is especially disturbing:

Since Herrera himself has a young daughter, and since there are "six children living within his fourplex alone" on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, the government has asked a judge not to release Herrera on bail before his trial.

Even more disturbing is it said he was also producing content.

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[–] Eggyhead@fedia.io 96 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does this go to show that authorities needing backdoors to everything in order to do their jobs is actually kind of nonsense?

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The article is exaggerating the guy's setup way too much. Opsec doesn't end at the application level... The OS (the most popular being in bed with US), ISP, tor nodes, Honeypot VPNs, so on and so on could leave a trail.

Using telegram public groups and obfuscating a calculator as a password protection layer is hillbilly level of security.

And i'm glad these fuckos don't have the knowledge to go beyond App developers marketing.

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it does. Perfect opsec is impossible even with encryption.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Heard about a guy doing insane opsec when selling on the dark web (darknet diaries podcast).
In the end he got busted because a trusted member if his operation got lazy and ignored his rules

Edit: This guy was essentially
Leeching internet via a directional antenna from a neighbour that was significantly away
Not allowing any visitor in with a cell. You had to keep it outside
All drug related actions are done in a cleaned down room.
Tripple sealing dark marketplace orders, wiping everything down with corrosive fluids to destroy any sort of dna material
Not going to the same post office in (I believe 6 months) and only sending of 3-6 shipments at once

I hope I got it correctly. Please go listen to the episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/132/

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the lulzsec leader dude who exposed himself by logging into IRC once without tor on.

Then he folded instantly and became an informant for the FBI to stay out of jail lol.

In the end its really about tradeoffs. You can't be an expert in everything so you need a team if you want to do anything big, but Cyber criminals are still criminals. They don't trust each other which is what ultimately leads to their downfall even if they do all the implementation and tech part right.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Some German guy got got for logging into IRC via encrypted wifi, the cops did some war driving and correlated timing of traffic spikes with IRC messages until they had a profile with better hit probability than a DNA match.

The best thing about that? They didn't even need a search warrant as our genius was broadcasting the side-channel to the whole neighbourhood.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 65 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The Ars article seems to suggest that they were able to crack his phones pretty easily, which is a bit scary. I don't see anything about a computer.

Although it doesn't appear he was actually using any encryption apps to store material; rather, he used a fake calculator app as password protection. Obviously not the brightest bulb in the drawer.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The material was allegedly stored behind password protection on his phone(s) but also on Mega and on Telegram, where Herrera is said to have "created his own public Telegram group to store his CSAM." He also joined "multiple CSAM-related Enigma groups" and frequented dark websites with taglines like "The Only Child Porn Site you need!"

My guess would honestly be Telegram. For starters, they aren't end-to-end encrypted by default, you have to turn it on. The only end-to-end encryption that Telegram offers is their "secret chats" which are only available between two users. Groups are not encrypted.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So telegram's delusional propaganda did something good for once?

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[–] AceSLS@ani.social 31 points 2 weeks ago

The Ars article seems to suggest that they were able to crack his phones pretty easily

Android uses data at rest encryption, which isn't really useful without a lockscreen PIN/password since data gets decrypted after you unlock your screen the first time after each boot

Although it doesn't appear he was actually using any encryption apps to store material; rather, he used a fake calculator app as password protection. Obviously not the brightest bulb in the drawer.

Agreed, he probably felt safe enough "hiding" the files. Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, which is great because fuck this guy

[–] chimera@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I honestly don't think he really had any opsec apart from those few applications, look at what tools he was using, what a joke. Fake calculator app to store files are great to protect from your parents, not the FBI.

He was clearly using Android and I bet he was using the stock rom, kyc sim card, and not even a vpn behind tor.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy and relieved he was caught, but if he had done serious research and did a better opsec, it wouldn’t have been so easy for the authorities to get him

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[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

It seems irrelevant whether this person is using encrypted channels if they failed to maintain anonymity. If they distributed material and leaked any identifying info (e.g. IP address), then it would be trivial for investigators or CIs to track them down.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Likely, data may have been encrypted but he may have leaked compromising metadata. Even more likely it was bad operation security linking a personal identity to his anonymous persona.

I'm always thankful for incompetent criminals.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the list of apps he was using I don't see any mention of a VPN. How much you want to bet he raw dogged it with encrypted apps over the clearnet so it was trivial to leak his real IP address

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

It sounds like he created material, not only AI but actual children then distributed it. The tools to track down the creators of CASM is only getting better.

A single legal image of any of those children posted to social media is going to allow algorithms to make the match and its routine detective work from there.

It only takes one child to talk. No amount of encryption is going to stop that.

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[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

saw a headline the other day about the gov't tracking people on tor using Google ads

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm still not entirely convinced that tor is as protected as people think it is.

There's only something like 6,000 exit nodes. It really wouldn't be that much money for the government to run thousands of them. If you monitor enough exit nodes and enough relays, you can start to statistically tie connections back together with timing analysis.

I don't know this to be the case for sure but I can't imagine the government hasn't pushed towards breaking the security and identifiability of the tor network

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you read a lot of news, it's really clear Tor isn't protecting anyone from the FBI. It's about as effective as using limewire at this point. Which also, the reporting makes it pretty clear it's not effective to hide criminal acts in the least. But it's pretty great abusers think it's effective so they get caught.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you read the news it's really clear people commit opsec mistakes - all it takes is one - and get caught.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago

I've suspected Tor of being heavily compromised for a while now. It's already known that many onion sites are government honeypots, with sites being taken over rather frequently, sometimes without triggering the canary. While it's better than nothing in some situations, I don't think it can be relied upon for true anonymity anymore.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of conjecture in the comments about how he got caught. Too bad nobody read the article.

Web-based generative AI tools/chatbots

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he created fake AI CSAM—but using imagery of real kids.

All the privacy apps in the world won't save you if you're uploading pics to a cloud service.

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[–] chimera@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

It is also because of people like him that laws like Going Dark become plausible to the eyes of the politicians and the masses

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Prison is too good for anyone who keeps child sex abuse images.

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

the fool! you can't use ROT-104 encryption against 4 cores!

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