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Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday called on the federal government to move “as quickly as possible” to change the way it officially classifies marijuana, saying that “nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.”

“I cannot emphasize enough that they need to get to it as quickly as possible,” Harris said. “We need to have a resolution based on their findings and their assessment. This issue is stark when one considers the fact that on the schedule currently, marijuana is considered as dangerous as heroin ― as dangerous as heroin ― and more dangerous than fentanyl, which is absurd, not to mention patently unfair.”

Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule 1 drug by the Drug Enforcement Administration. That classification designates it one of the most dangerous drugs possible, with no medicinal uses. Other substances in the same category include heroin, ecstasy and LSD. Marijuana advocates have been pushing for years for the federal government to either reschedule marijuana to a different category or deschedule it entirely.

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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 150 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Harris oversaw more than 1,900 marijuana convictions in San Francisco, previously unreported records from the DA’s office show. Her prosecutors appear to have convicted people on marijuana charges at a higher rate than under her predecessor, based on data about marijuana arrests in the city.

As the political winds blow with her I guess. At least it's a positive change.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 102 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eh.

That was when it went from jail to a fine though.

So lots of people stopped giving a shit and started smoking publicly.

And she's been pro legalization for years now.

There's lots of shit to criticize Biden and Harris on, but Harris's time as a DA and her cannabis conviction just isn't a good one.

[–] ArcRay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

"Under Harris, the D.A.'s office obtained more than 1,900 convictions for marijuana offenses, including persons simultaneously convicted of marijuana offenses and more serious crimes.[73] The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[73] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and go her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses."

From her Wikipedia page (the reference is pay walled and im not invested enough to figure it out).

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 61 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (22 children)

As an AG, it was her role to uphold the law and bring forward prosecutions.

I'm recognizing positive change, which is an option now with her new role

Edit I'll also acknowledge it's an election year and this is a popular topic TOO

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[–] drislands@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Sometimes a hypocrite is just a man in the process of changing.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or this is what she wants the law to be, that was what she did when her job was to enforce the law that existed back then.

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[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 83 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed"

-The person who made a career putting people in jail for smoking weed

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Harris has been pro weed for years now. One of the foremost issues with our political system in the US is that these people are elected by a constituency that demands a job be done in a way that they want. (I am purposely ignoring the corporate donor aspect for this statement)

The locality (and the era) demanded drug dealers go to jail, so she did her job. Where Harris has floundered is how she talks about it and attonrs for it today.

You can be outspoken about a politicians past, but it's disingenuous to ignore that a politician has changed, especially so if they have changed with positive progression.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Hey now, the hate boner doesn’t get off on logic, it gets off on mindless hate.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 61 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I unironically think that if marijuana should be banned, then so should alcohol

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 48 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If they were both first introduced today alcohol would definitely be the one people would want more restricted.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alcohol can kill you pretty quickly if you're not careful, IMO it probably should be more restricted than weed.

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not true.

As soon as republicans discover it's easier to convince underaged girls to fuck them if they're drunk, it's going legal.

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[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 52 points 7 months ago (5 children)

“Somebody ought to do something about this ASAP,” says one of the only people on the planet actually capable of doing something about it for the last 4 years. OK.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Elections are coming up so it's time to talk about it and do nothing else that would make it happen

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 32 points 7 months ago (27 children)

Lemmy sees something good happen:

"Not good enough!"

We all know it should have happened before, but dismissing that the vice president just publicly called for this is silly

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

Biden campaigned on rescheduling it so this is just nakedly trying to boost their pre-election popularity. They could've done this day one. They didn't. They won't.

Web archive of Biden's campaign site, September 2019: http://web.archive.org/web/20190723224533/https://joebiden.com/justice/

Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions. Biden believes no one should be in jail because of cannabis use. As president, he will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions. And, he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes, leave decisions regarding legalization for recreational use up to the states, and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (29 children)

Biden could order cannabis descheduled ( what his campaign program was) and if agencies don't listen, fucking fire the agency heads and hire someone that will. It literally one of the handful of things he could do himself.

But somehow it's 3.5 years into his first term. And Biden has apparently compromised even more with himself and we won't get his original compromise of descheduling.

When a president acts like this right before their next election, lots of voters rationally stop believing any of their current campaign promises.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

It’s honestly just insulting at this point. Deschedule the fucking plant already, you doddering old fools.

When you’re done, we can have a frank conversation about the number of people directly killed by alcohol each year. (It’s literally infinitely more compared to marijuana.)

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[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can tell there's an election coming up.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (9 children)

For the, "why are you doing it now, convenient!" crowd - first of all yes, that's how politics works. Trump is a constant heartbeat of bullshit and you need to have strategically timed news and events to stay in people's short term memories for voting impact - especially the committed stoners :)

But also, Biden admin has been working towards this for years. He is not the most progressive anything, but he's doing more than his predecessors on either side (and the pathetic gop alternative) and that's progress.

You don't make major legislative change by firing a cannon at the front door - you set several small fires at all the other exits on the building and then when all that is in motion, you just knock on the front door to warn everyone about the fire and they walk out willingly.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-marijuana-reform/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminalization-white-house-joe-biden/index.html

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1221230390/biden-pardons-clemency-marijuana-drug-offenses

On December 2, 2022, Biden signed the Medical Marijuana and Cannabidiol Research Expansion Act - "the first standalone marijuana-related bill approved by both chambers of the United States Congress"

Biden approved the Viktor Bout–Brittney Griner prisoner exchange work Russia on December 8, 2022 which involved an American WNBA athlete being convicted of cannabis possession on Russian soil and being held in Russian prison.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

I grew up straight edge in a religious household. I was so afraid of getting into trouble, I didn't even drink as a teenager even though all my friends did.

Now my work depends on me keeping away from illegal drugs. Seeing as my family's livelihood depends on that, it's a pretty straightforward decision to never cross that line, ever. So I say this as a 30+ yr old who's rarely drank and never done drugs of any kind that weren't prescribed.

If this changes, and it's confirmed that my livelihood wouldn't be threatened for trying it, I would absolutely partake.

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (40 children)

Just so everyone knows, the DEA is actively reviewing a report from the Department of Health and Human services where they recommended to reschedule weed to a schedule 3. Biden had directed HHS to research to see if it should be rescheduled, so while biden hasn't unilaterally legalized weed (something that would quickly be challenged in court since presidents don't usually have unilateral power for most things), he has definitely been pushing it not be schedule 1. Which, while not legalization, would be a huge step for not just the industry but for all the medical patients out there who have had their doctors refuse to treat them because they use weed for pain.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)

You know, this is a pretty smart way to approach the political side of this tactically.

Biden can't say deschedule it outright without offending at least some borderline fence sitters and the elder crowd indoctrinated with the old propaganda that made it out to be among the most terrible things.

By having the younger VP who wouldn't really have direct authority to have it changed but is directly I'm the same circles, it gets the idea out there as a 'very strong unofficial stance'.

Next step, the 'cool grandpa' moment when Biden gets to make a gesture for the younger crowd by having it pulled from the schedules. Financially the feds have undoubtedly been eyeing the income (and lack of incarceration costs) brought into states with legal sales for a while and would like a piece of it too.

[–] Troooop@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Biden already ordered his health secretary back in 2022 to begin descheduling, he hasn't been playing it safe here

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 28 points 7 months ago

I barely touched weed my whole life until I got medical access ~5 years ago. I was also never a big drinker or user of other recreational substances.

The stuff helps me so much that I use my vape or edibles almost every single day. That plus the margin of safety makes it downright cruel in my eyes that it’s prohibited in so many places.

But I guess given the racist motives of the anti-marijuana push 40 years ago, maybe the cruelty was the point.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

zzzz Wake me up when they actually do something

This is so cheap. They want the credit for fixing something without the effort of getting it done

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 7 months ago

I'm glad they want to change that. I hope they do. Far too many people, especially minorities, serving sentences for weed. It does feel like a bit of a hollow victory when women's rights are being rolled back to the 19th century, though.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If democrats can't get this done ahead of the election it will be criminally negligent

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They've had 4 years, it's already negligent

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Donald Trump came into office and had both Houses.

Never even mentioned weed, unless it was to talk about how users should be executed.

But I'm sure he'll change next time

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Well I don't do drugs but she could schedule it for tomorrow after breakfast. I know my neighbor smokes it after work for example. 😂.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How about 4:20 this afternoon?

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[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Kamala Harris promised to reschedule it right the following day after Biden has won the presidential elections. She added, "and if you don't like the idea of marijuana being rescheduled", and loudly winked three times.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, there are many other substances that need to be changed as well, but they need to start somewhere. The War on (Some) Drugs is and always has been a complete farce.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

LSD and mushrooms too. MDMA is a bit sideways but psychedelics in general should not be illegal

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think if Biden and Harris were to officially endorse decriminalizing or legalizing recreational marijuana, we'd see a Democrat landslide. But that would require some actual common sense from Congressmen.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

U.S. President Joe Biden stated in February 2021 that his administration will pursue cannabis decriminalization as well as seek expungements for people with prior cannabis convictions.[1] It can still be found on his campaign website under sentencing reform.[2]

In October 2022, President Biden announced a mass pardon for past federal cannabis possession convictions, encouraged governors to do the same for state cannabis possession convictions, and instructed Attorney General Merrick Garland and Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra to review the classification schedule of marijuana, which could result in removal of cannabis from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.[20]

Once again, Biden already did the good thing, but you people never heard about it

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s wild that this is still even needing to be discussed.

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[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"oh shit! They're onto us about the TikTok thing! Quick! Bring up weed! The zoomers and millennials love that shit!"

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