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[–] Squirrel_Patrol@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's even better is him thinking he's not going to be in prison long because Trump is going to win the next election and pardon him. My brother, there's a greater chance of Trump becoming your cell mate.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah... Even if Trump wins there's no way he remembers or cares about anyone involved in Jan 6.

These guys are way more screwed than they realize.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is a narcissist who cares about image and the cheers of crowds. If pardoning J6 traitors gets him that, he will do it.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It's true he doesn't give a damn about these people but they're useful for his scam. He's already said he'll pardon people and will continue to say it because it suits the narrative he's pushing and what his base wants to hear.

The problem is he is toxic and will only get more so as his legal issues turn into jail time so it's unlikely he'll win election. If he were smart he'd drop out and secure a pardon from a more electable GOP nominee in return for endorsement. But he won't. So it seems that these proud boy / oathkeeper idiots are likely to be spending a long time behind bars.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, it could happen.

Most of the country is dealing with a 30% to 50% cost of living increase, and they're going to blame Biden for it. Trump got elected the first time because 6,000,000 were foreclosed upon when Obama was president.

[–] MoistMogwai@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's possible, but as much as people are exhausted with Biden, nothing would get blue to turn out to vote like another chance of Trump. Blue would vote for a tent full of mosquitoes if it meant voting against Trump. Trump supporters have gotten more fanatical, not more numerous. Some of my own family members are currently in orange pill recovery. Not to mention all the Reds that died of COVID denial. Then you factor in young people now eligible to vote skewing blue. The only person I think Trump could beat honestly would be Hillary. Red would show up to vote against her if not for Trump.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was the argument people made for Hillary's certain victory on Election Day, that the notion of Trump being elected would mean a huge Democratic turnout.

Thing is, people aren't going to give a shit who the candidate of change is when they can't afford their grocery bills, and Trump isn't going to have to lie about how little Biden has done to alleviate people's poverty.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I didn't vote when it was Hillary or Tbag. I hated both. But I'll keep voting to protect against him happening again. It's exactly what the dems are counting on, and it's unfortunately working on me.

Still waiting to see who I'll vote for in primaries, though. My vote only counts there in my state.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

That would be the ultimate punishment for both of them. They have to deal with each other for the next 22 years.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's good that he's going away for 22 years. However, the sentencing guidelines called for between 324 to 405 months (27-33 years) so by the Judge's own calculations this is a miscarriage of justice and yet another right wing domestic terrorist is being handled with kid gloves. Fucking disgraceful.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was an informant right? Distasteful as it is, informing has to be publicly seen as providing a tangible benefit, or future criminals wont talk

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sentences can include upward and downward departures from the guidelines based on the circumstances of the case. It's also important to remember that the guidelines are non-binding on judges.

[–] PR3CiSiON@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

So it's like the guidelines are just guidelines?

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

2 decades is 2 decades. And, it's not like when he gets released he'll be hailed as a hero. Trump will be dead, most of his supporters will probably be dead of old age or COVID. The rest will be too embarrassed that they voted for him to admit it.

When he gets out he'll be 60. Having spent decades in prison, he won't be able to retire, and will probably live out the rest of his life working menial jobs that hire ex-felons until he dies in obscurity.

[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Couldn't have happened to a prouder boy

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Federal informant, and still get 22 years?? Congrats on playing yourself, Ricky!

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a long time to fester in a place where they love rats.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My understanding was that the informant bit didn't really help him out because he stopped being an informant and then the January 6th riots happened.

So he'd stopped supplying them with information before he then committed treason. So it isn't as if they just weren't appreciative of the information supplied, the information supplied had nothing to do with why he was arrested.

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Waiting for Trump to be all "When we retake what's rightfully ours, I'll make sure those who were wrongly imprisoned by Crooked Joe Biden are exonerated as the patriots they are!"

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Those in prison can't vote so Trump will just write them off as useless.

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[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump might say that but he’d never actually do it. He never does anything to help others.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

LOL GET FUKT TRAITOR!

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Traitors only get 20 years? Dang, soft punishment for treason, but at least it's something eh.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Don't think you understand what 20 years in prison looks like.

I don't either, but it sure would ruin my life

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Only" 20 years? There can be whatever number and people will still say it is too little

[–] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Historically, people who attempt to overthrow their government get death. Hell, they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years? We've gone soft.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years

Yeah but in reality the UK doesn't have the death penalty for any crime anymore, including treason.

Meanwhile the US regularly executes people for a single murder.

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[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guys losing 1/3 of his adult life, and won't get out of prison before his 60s. I'm extremely anti-j6, but 22 years seems like a nice hefty sentance to me

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[–] remer@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Good. Fuck that guy.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May he die from an embarrassing and uncomfortable medical condition exactly 5 minutes before release.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Should be 222 years. Rot in cell, traitor.

[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Delightful!

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