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“We need to identify each juror. Then make them miserable. Maybe even suicidal,” wrote another user on the same forum. “1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to washington and hang everyone. That’s the only solution,” wrote another user. “This s--- is out of control.”

“I hope every juror is doxxed and they pay for what they have done,” another user wrote on Trump’s Truth Social platform Thursday. “May God strike them dead. We will on November 5th and they will pay!”

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[–] VeryImportantUser@lemmy.world 253 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Get their IP addresses. Jail them. Easy. You prevent terrorist attacks. But I guess that's too much to ask from police.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 227 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Some of those those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 71 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I'm so fucking tired of seeing this quote constantly... but it's inarguably a pervasive problem. I need this to stop being true so I don't have to see it all the time.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

I'm tired of this quote being forever relevant.

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[–] stanka@lemmy.ml 106 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Grizzled police-chief: get me those IP addresses

Nerd: setting up the back-trace now, wait, the ip is 127.0.0.1

Grizzled police-chief: don't give me that geek-talk poindexter, speak english

[Zoom in]

Nerd: the post was coming from inside the station.

[No one is shocked]

fin.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Here is the problem: These people very carefully choose their words. It’s not illegal to “wish” all the jurors are outed, tortured, maimed, and drawn and quartered over a bed of coals- along with their families, neighbors and first grade teachers.

See that’s all okay to say apparently. This is our legal system. It’s not until they actually say, “I’m going to […],” that LE gets involved. Because none of that other stuff was a direct threat, or intended to incite violence, or intended to instill fear. They were just harmless wishes. Super okay, and nothing to worry about, you see?

[–] ZeroCool@vger.social 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Here is the problem: These people very carefully choose their words.

This has not been my experience with Trump supporters on the internet. Ever.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is exactly what they’ve done. Notice everything (except for “make them miserable”, which isn’t inherently illegal..) is placed on “someone else should…”:

1,000,000 men (armed) need to […]

I hope every juror is doxxed and they pay […]

May God strike them dead.

They know exactly what they are doing. Doing it mafia style, just like dear leader.

Edit: Idiots downvoting what’s right in their face. Can’t believe facts, only emotions. Just like the idiots following Trump. Idiots are idiots. Here is more evidence for you, on this exact topic from reuters:

While the posts identified by Reuters all called for violence or insurrection, most fell short of the legal standard for a prosecutable threat, which typically requires evidence that the comment reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yes and no.

There are no "magic words" that make a threat legal. It's always a question of context.

For example if Don Corleone came to your business and said "Nice place you got here, would be a shame if it burned down. By the way I happen to sell fire protection", that would absolutely be illegal even though he never said he would do anything wrong. The intent is clear to all.

So it doesn't really matter if someone says "I wish that guy was dead!" vs "I'm going to kill that guy!" Either one can be an illegal true threat, or not, depending on the context.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 months ago

We really need better enforcement of laws on threatening civil servants.

These jurors did a job that I might even struggle to take due to the likelihood of these assholes might fuck my life up. Imo, they should be given at least a year of Secret Service or US Marshall protection.

I personally don't trust the local PD to protect them.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Conservatives make up over 90% of police in the U.S. Conservatism should be a diaqualifier for positions of authority. It is unsafe to give such dangerous people power over others.

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 197 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a terrorist group. Label them as such

[–] Tja@programming.dev 120 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"we are all domestic terrorists"

- GOP

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And that's not being snide - they actually had that on the giant scroller at the rnc convention!

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

When someone tells you what they are, believe them.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 173 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder why people think Trump supporters are fascists.

[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 77 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's astonishing how quickly republicans have aligned to the behaviours of the Nazi party of the 1930s. They're leveraging trump's conviction exactly the same as the Nazis used the Reichstag fire to turn the power of the government against anyone opposed to them.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 146 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Conservatives are a threat to stable and peaceful societies, and an existential threat to the whole human race due to their climate change denialism. As long as we continue to pretend that conservatism is a valid political ideology and not psychopathy and sadism packaged up to look like politics, they'll continue to undermine democracy and peace until they get the genocide(s) they keep clamoring for

In the present research (N = 675), we focus on the relationship between the dark side of human personality and political orientation and extremism, respectively, in the course of a presidential election where the two candidates represent either left-wing or right-wing political policies. Narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and everyday sadism were associated with right-wing political orientation, whereas narcissism and psychopathy were associated with political extremism. Moreover, the relationships between personality and right-wing political orientation and extremism, respectively, were relatively independent from each other.

We found eleven significant correlations between conservative [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad – [narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy,] all at significance level of p<.00001 – and no significant correlations between liberal [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad. We believe that these results raise provocative moral questions about the personality bases of moral judgments. In particular, we propose that because the Short-D3 measures three “dark and antisocial” personality traits, our results raise some prima facie worries about the moral justification of some conservative moral judgments

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 135 points 5 months ago (26 children)

Conservatism should be openly treated as the deadly, dangerous ideology that it is. It produces only bigotry, oppression and death.

In all of human history, nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.

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[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 80 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're a little late, the conviction has happened. If they wanted to interfere with the outcome of the trial they should have done that before the verdict. Silly treasonous fascists.

[–] caffinatedone@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're not silly at all, they're thugs. They want to influence the next one by showing the cost of going against them.

Now, we're lucky that they're mostly grifting, incompetent, blustery cowards, so the risk isn't what it could be.

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[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They don't care about cause and effect, they are just angry and dumb.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mean yeah but in their defense ....oh who am I kidding. If you're still defending trump you're a trash person...there is no defense.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm glad the jurors have been smart enough to stay quiet. Now that the verdict is in, there is nothing keeping them from going public with details about their deliberations, but they seem to have all agreed it is best to keep out of the public eye. I wonder if the two lawyers purported to be on the jury advised them of that.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them already has an advance to write a book about it, which we will see eventuallty. I wonder if they get to keep their notes.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They absolutely should remain publicly silent until sentencing, personal safety aside. Publicly expressing opinions could be used in an appeal as argument for influencing the judge prior to sentencing.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

On the flip side, the judge should absolutely use Trump violating his gag order to express his opinions about the case and those involved to impose prison time as part of his sentence.

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[–] jobby@lemmy.today 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gosh! It’s lovely to see that they are such calm, reasonable and intelligent people.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine simping for this ugly, rich loser. I’d kind of get it if he was at least hot. Part of me thinks these simps are fake people that Trump and team created.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Mostly fake, foundationally created by pootin to get his favorite puppet elected, and to foment civil war.

And the uber-loser maga simps bought and jumped all in to racist christofascistlandia.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

These people are nothing, but a bunch of unhinged cowards. Fuck'em.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

No, some of them are also insurrectionists who've already tried to overthrow their government once.

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[–] FleetingTit@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

Can someone please create an organization called "Pride Boys" and make them so popular that searching for "proud boys" on google will turn up images of rainbow flags and gay men?

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Disgusting but not too shocking knowing his supporters nowadays.

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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What if we gave them the address to Sam Alito's house?

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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“May God strike them dead. We will on November 5th”

…is a “win” missing or are they openly saying they’ll kill them on election day?

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[–] bestelbus22@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

It's only fitting for the man with the best words to finally get a sentence

[–] SickofReddit@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

I counter attack with, using their names to create an online fund raiser to make these reasonable people rich.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Notice how there were never any big protests or demonstrations at the actual courthouse.

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