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I have always called a light top with a full zipper to be a jacket, however the people I'm surrounded by insist on calling it a sweatshirt. I'm prepared to be wrong, just wondering if I'm the only one.

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[–] chrisgpz@lemmy.world 133 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

More importantly, where is OP based that this has become a debate with two wrong answers?!

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

The only true answer

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[–] konalt@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (7 children)
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[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 47 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I really like these because they're convenient. I call them a hoodie.

Then I realised I never use the hood and it's kinda uncomfortable when you put a jacket on in winter

So I bought one without a hood

That was the day I realised I'd bought what was essentially my first cardigan :(

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If it has a zipper I'd consider it a sweater not a cardigan. Cardis have buttons.

(Realizing that a cardigan is a type of sweater, but I just mean it's a different kind of sweater)

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

You keep telling yourself that when you're 50 my friend 😂

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

the ones without hoods often have uncomfortable collars, like zipper scratching my neck etc. so even though i dont use the hood, i prefer having it so it sits well.

[–] BunnyKnuckles@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago

Mr. Rogers would be proud. :)

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[–] Atin@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

That's a zippered hoodie

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 5 months ago

It's a hoodie.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'd call it a "hoodie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie

A hoodie (in some cases spelled hoody[1] and alternatively known as a hooded garment)[2] is a type of sweatshirt[1] with a hood that partially or fully covers the wearer's head or face.

Wikipedia says that the zipper can be a defining characteristic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacket

List of jackets

  • Hoodie, a zippered hooded sweatshirt (non zippered can be considered a sweatshirt only)
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[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ugh, I spent entirely too much time arguing this when I was still in school, ironically the most time we spent arguing with men that were more than twice my age and felt way too strongly about this.

This is the right answer and I will not be taking any questions: 🙃

  • If it comes as a set with matching bottoms(or a gold chain) = Tracksuit/Sweatsuit

  • Light single layer + hood = hoodie

  • Light (single layer) + zipper/buttons + no hood = Jacket

  • Light (single layer) + knitted = sweater or sweater jacket if it opens

  • The other lighter layers with no hardware are just pullover

  • Heavier outterwear = Coat

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You wrote all of that and left out the one in the picture

It’s a zip up hoodie

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[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 24 points 5 months ago

Zip up hoodie

[–] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 months ago

It's a hoodie.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

That my friend, is called a hoodie.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago

Depends what it's made of IMO. That form factor can be a jacket if it's made of jacket material, but the one pictured appears to be made of sweater material, and it's therefore a hoodie, which is a sweater.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I would not call it at all.

(because I know already that it won't come :-))

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's clearly white and gold

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It's blue and black what are you high on?!

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Sweatshirt when zipped, jacket when unzipped, always hoodie.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

According to the TSA, it's a jacket. Ask me how I know.

[–] RagnvaldG@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How do you know ? Does it involve cavity search ?

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[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's down to the material. That looks like full cotton with a hood. So, sweatshirt. Hooded sweatshirt = Hoodie. Denim? Would've been a jacket. Some sort of wind blocking material like polyester or nylon would be a jacket. I might give jacket status to a multilayer cotton jacket with inner liners too.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

nylon

Then it's a windbreaker

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This whole thing is confusing to me.

For me, gen X, growing up it was this:
Sweatshirt: Non-hooded OR hooded and shirt shaped with NO zipper but made of material that is "fleece"-like on one side and smooth-ish on the other.

Jacket: zippered thing, long sleeves, usually made of plastic or nylon but the purpose was to wear OVER your clothes as a windbreaker and/or to keep you warm.

Hoodies did not exist. Things like a sweatshirt, jacket, coat or shirt might have a hood.

Now, I do not know what the fuck to call shit.

That is a fucking jirt. Shirtet. Sweatjack. Hoodet. Sweatie. Jackie.

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[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That particular thing is a hoodie. Without the hood it's a jacket. Without a zip (as in, it goes over your head to put it on) it's a jumper. I think sweatshirt is an American word

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just call a hoodie without a zipper a pullover hoodie.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sounds like it!

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/sweatshirt_n?tl=true

The earliest known use of the noun sweatshirt is in the 1920s.

OED's earliest evidence for sweatshirt is from 1929, in Sears, Roebuck Catalogue.

EDIT: I never really thought about the word until now, realized that it's a portmanteau of "sweater" and "shirt".

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Jackets, often, but not always. Track jackets, windbreaker jackets, shell jackets, etc. Light jackets and coats without lining are pretty easy to find. I even have a light sport coat with no lining.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] RagnvaldG@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It does sound better than a jackshirt.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Jacket. But also hoodie.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Standard haxor uniform for posing for pictures.

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[–] Devi@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

The tag on the one I wear says sweatshirt on it.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

Depends on the material and construction by my reckoning. If it's made of just sweatshirt fleece (smooth on the outside face), it would most-precisely be called a "full-zip hooded sweatshirt." I have also heard of these referred to as a "sweatjac," though. (Which, IMO, sounds more like an event at the Self-Love Olympics.) Without the zipper, it'd be a "pullover hooded sweatshirt." If it were constructed with a lining, or from a heavier-duty material (e.g. denim), then it'd be a "hooded jacket." Garments made from material with two fuzzy faces (or even one fuzzy face on the outside) are "fleeces," so this'd be a "full-zip hooded fleece."

No, I don't claim that it makes sense, it's just the way I learned it.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It's both, depending on what word my brain decides to use at the time.

But I think usually that would be a "sweater", a "sweatshirt" doesn't have a zipper or hood, and a "jacket" is made of, um, jacket material.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a zip up hoody, which makes it a sweater as far as I'm aware.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago
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