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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 106 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Vaccines. the original against smallpox was revolutionary, probably one of the most important discoveries of human history. Smallpox was a horrendous disease but we found a way to save the lives of millions of people

And know we have outbreaks of diseases like measles because the vaccines were so effective that people starting to believe that the disease was not so bad and that the risk of the vaccine was greater than the risk of the disease πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm so sick of people, and their bullshit

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If only there were a vaccine for that, too.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is! We need to inoculate them with books.

[–] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That only works if they can read or are open to changing their mind. These kinds of people can’t, generally.

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Harambe. His death is what caused this timeline to branch off from the correct one.

[–] Magik11v@ani.social 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, he sacrificed himself to save us from an even worse timeline. It was a canon event.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If this is the better of the timelines i would rather him still be alive to lead us into the apocalypse that could have been.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

He didn't prevent it, he just delayed it to give you time to get your affairs in order.

[–] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is also my benchmark for when it all turned to shit

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Gamergate was the starting point in my mind…

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

facebook's reach.

Cambridge Analytica has used it for elections.

some android phones have fb factory-installed (and not easily removable).

in some countries fb data consumption is totally free~

there were reports of [publicized?] fb experiments manipulating user's feed to elicit feelings of sadness, despair and hope.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was just thinking last night about how crazy it is that we've let a company as horrible and evil as Facebook mold and shape our society. Even governments are bending to their will. The fact that even the US government just gave up on making its own notification and communication platform and just started using Twitter and Facebook is ridiculous.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I hope the "host your own government Mastodon instance" thing catches on in the US

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Real-time communications over distance in general.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Monasteries. Relatively small groups of people living there have changed whole societies.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you give an example of such a change?

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not the op but a medieval history nerd all the same.

Monasteries actually were kind of technological powerhouses in their day. Cistercians for instance transmitted technologies, forging techniques, farming and cultivation advances and medical knowledge across Europe because basically you had a sort of "franchise" where every church they made was built and run to a regimented standard. They had the study of latin and a sort of sign language that meant travelling monks could all understand each other and since travel was fairly dangerous and rare it facilitated the transmission of scientific and philosophical thought.

It was fairly common for monasteries to provide state of the art medical care for their time which was actually fairly sophisticated in basic exchange for experimentation, the honing and propagating the research. You see the lingering effect of this in our languages. Clock comes from the word for "bells" because the mechanisms were developed originally to automatically ring the tower bells at the monestaries. Gutenberg likely got his early education in the hopes of pursuing a religious career and yhe printing press was originally to copy bibles. Latin is so entangled with modern science because those systems have their origins in monastic studies that veiwed the study of "natural philosophy" as a sort of religious observance of God's creation.

Similar situations were actually happening in parallel in other places. Religions of various sorts held a very "glue of logistical and technological ties" role in the past. Like the Muslim faith was very key in the developments of maths. Astronomy, medicine, metalworking, farming, the skills required to produce art..you track these developments in the religious temple structures of the Aztecs, Buddhists , Taoists, the Babaloynians, Greek and Romans, Egyptians and so on. Secularism taking over that role is actually all told a very new development in the grand scheme.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's neat. I can't help but think that it's amazing what we can accomplish when we don't have all the distractions of ordinary life. You pointed out several intellectual achievements from western monks, and we've seen mind-blowing physical achievements from Chinese monks. We waste so much time and energy with socializing, working, farming, and whatever else is a part of ordinary life, that we don't have a lot left for other pursuits. I know that I had a million great ideas when I was unemployed, but never had the money to pursue them. Now that I have the money, I don't have any of the ideas or creativity because I spend all my mental energy at work.

I've always thought it was so neat that all academics spoke Latin in the past, and they could communicate with other academics from other countries without issue. I suppose now they all speak English, but that leaves the English speaking academics without a bad ass second language to distinguish them. One of the coolest scenes in Tombstone is when Jonny Ringo says something in Latin to Doc Holiday and Doc says to his girlfriend "That's Latin darling, apparently Ringo is an educated man", and then they talk shit to each other in Latin for a couple minutes.

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Amazing things are being created at some workplaces as well

The creation of IMF and how it destroyed any hope for European communism post ww2

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Google Plus. Nobody is talking about it today, but it was the place back in the day.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago

I loved Google plus, there were lots of great communities

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

InfoSec

Y'all never listen until it's time to fix a breach or a blowout, and then y'all act like absolute mother fuckers about it too!

Just turn it off and on without being a little bitch about how you already did that, you're being walked through a trouble shooting process god fucking damnit!

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Sometimes the off and on is necessary because the next step requires clean memory and the restart ensures that damn it!

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