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Summary

Bernie Sanders criticizes the Democratic Party for neglecting the working class, leading to their recent election losses.

He highlights issues like economic inequality, job displacement, healthcare costs, and foreign policy as key concerns for the American people.

Sanders questions whether the Democratic leadership will address these issues or remain beholden to big money interests.

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[–] argarath@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

I wonder why Bernie and other progressives don't band together and announce their own party. With enough big names (especially Bernie) they could gather enough attention to be a viable third party that actually represents progressive and more left leaning ideas than the democrats. They have two years until the next local elections to get their foot on the race, I think they could get done traction if they actually go for that

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 51 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

The DNC needs to allow voters to elect who they actually want during the primary. We were force fed Hillary because the DNC didn't want Bernie. We didn't even have a primary because we were force fed Biden, then given Harris because Biden was so unelectable. The DNC must allow democratic process to take place so that voters elect the presidential candidate that they want.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 hours ago

we don’t do that anymore, having “democratic” in party name is enough. be prepared to have liz cheney as nominee with ben shapiro as her running mate in 2028.

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[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 79 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Hi. Working tradesman. I still voted blue even when the 4 years under trump were mostly better for me than under Biden. Of course most likely coasting off of Obama's era. But I got no relief under Biden. I pay $20k a year for my Healthcare and still have to pay thousands a year out of pocket for visits. My family in Ukraine is still unsure what's going to happen in the next year. Many of brothers in my local are unemployed now during the hardest time to pay to live. We hear the record profits the corporations made and swindled the working class dry so we can eat yet there has been no relief. How did making 6 figures for a family of 5 turn into almost living pay check to pay check.

I'm ok with sacrifice if it means others get the help they need. But I don't think anyone got the help they needed. We sacrificed for no benifit to anyone but the elite, and we are continuing to be ignored.

This is what Sanders is talking about. And I'm afraid of what Trump is going to do for many Americans. For my Ukrainian family back home. For my neighbor who is Taiwanese. But recently I'm more worried to keep food on the table for my kids. I don't even care who won anymore. I have election and political fatigue. I did what was asked. I keep doing what everyone thinks is right. But I'm burning out.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 225 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

He's 100% correct. This failure is a failure of the DNC to actually pay attention to what the voters want.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 108 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This election, like every failed election effort since 2000, was a referendum on the democratic party platform: neoliberal business as usual for the top 15% sprinkled with "we're not Republicans"

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 38 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

“we’re not Republicans”

Trust us, we are different. Oh how specifically are we different? What a great question, is it not the best part of this nation to be able to ask such things. Anyway, as I was saying....

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago

I hate how accurate this shit is

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 33 points 17 hours ago (15 children)

If he formed a new party with young, fresh faces, I'd vote for them regardless of how that affected whatever the DNC did. I feel like there's enough similar sentiment that he could force change in the DNC

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (14 children)

Finally. Everybody on Lemmy has been sucking donkey dick so hard. They’re not gonna save you. Need to start looking elsewhere or force their hand. RCV will help do that.

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[–] ytsedude@lemmy.world 121 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

The only focused Democratic message for the past 8+ years has been, "We need to stop Trump," which I agree with, but without Trump, I can't think of a single, unified message. That's not enough to get the general population fired up and excited to vote for Dems. One thing that made Obama so popular was he had specific goals and gave people hope.

Trump, in the meantime, has been feeding people all sorts of promises and hopes and dreams. They're all terrible and full of shit, but that is a more powerful message than just, "We need to stop Harris."

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I'm also legitimately convinced that the average American person is just an asshole and likes other assholes. Trump is the most conceited, whiney, cry baby, know it all, jagoff and everybody knows it. He wears it like a medal. And people love it man. They just eat it up.

It's just like Carlin said. The politicians come from us. Because they are us.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago

Trump is the most conceited, whiney, cry baby, know it all, jagoff and everybody knows it. He wears it like a medal. And people love it man. They just eat it up.

That's the thing. I'm sick of the media painting this as a "they're holding their noses and voting" thing. This dude doesn't win despite his vulger rallies and his racist, sexist, homophobic, crazy, whiney, criminal, and arrogant behavior... He wins because of that shit.

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[–] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yesterday and today feel like I'm reliving my mom's election loss back in 2016. I was too young then to understand the weight behind what was going on at the time, although I did at least understand why Trump seemed like a dumb candidate. Anyways, I distinctly remember how when it was obvious that Hillary lost, even though she won the popular vote, that something wasn't right. My mom was sobbing while looking for places to move into, since we were moving out anyways. Now, 8 years later, I'm having those exact same feelings as she did except with my boyfriend on my side, knowing very well that come January that if nothing happens, we could very well be one of his first targeted groups. I fucking hate this timeline, man.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I was in college and living with a bisexual Saudi friend at the time. I'm a straight white man, so I wasn't a target, but he absolutely was. I sat with him in the kitchen while we got drunk and he cried.

The good news is he made it through fine and I think is doing well today still in the US. It's going to suck, but most of us are probably going to survive this. Don't give up all hope. Build your community, organize, join mutual aid groups, and build what we need to take back power in the future.

They're going to try to take us backward, but make them take us kicking and screaming. Don't give up and let them have it for free.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 62 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

God fucking dammit he should have been the fucking president in 2016. Fuck this timeline.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago

Gore should have been the president in 2000

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Nah i dont think yall are willing to do it. 2028 you'll be holding your nose again voting for an out of touch moderate to oppose trumps third term instead of giving a progressive you completely agree with any kind of chance.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy, which has so much economic power?” Sanders asked.

”Probably not”

Bernie has been the Cassandra of the Democratic Party for decades. They need to realize that it has gone too far. The insane wealth gap, which has surpassed pre-Revolution France at this point, combined with the unaffordability of everything has created a crisis that won’t be fixed by platitudes and vague promises.

People are desperate, afraid, and angry. Changing that to hope and enthusiasm requires real plans that average voters can understand and even more than that requires correctly showing people the source of the problem.

Being beholden to billionaires is the real problem. And all their money, advertising, polling, and other bullshit didn’t do a damn thing to help Harris. Take them on the way FDR did or give the country to republicans permanently.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 18 points 17 hours ago

The insane wealth gap, which has surpassed pre-Revolution France

Let that sink in

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 90 points 22 hours ago (18 children)

Man, if he'd form a populist left party and stop caucusing with the Dems, he might get a lot of enthusiastic support and candidates running locally soon

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