This is the USA, someone with a loaded gun in their car is near anything all the time.
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I would be interested to see what information comes out on this one. A shotgun and handgun isn't going to do shit for an assassination attempt. Unless you are Gavrilo Princip.
I dunno, a homemade shotgun worked well enough on Shinzo Abe.
He also was able to get much closer to Abe because guns are illegal in Japan. This gave the assassin a number of avenues of cover. It was a makeshift weapon so didn't really look like a gun, it wasn't easy for security to identify it as a gun, and the lack of guns added to the sense of security allowing people to be closer to Abe.
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Handguns did the job on Ronald Reagan and almost for Gerald Ford.
Leaving Abe Lincoln to one side, but if you are lucky and your security detail is a bit lax, a handgun can get the job done. I'm Australian, so we don't see much of that sort of thing.
No we just wish it had done the job on Ronald Reagan
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Anyone who knows anything about direct action knows that backups are mandatory and it's hard to carry several long guns.
You're not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon, definitionally after two assassinations.
Feels more like a dumbass forgot to remove their weapons or "it doesn't apply to me" person. I would actually like to see someone look up how often this happens outside this year.
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Local outlets say that Miller is a registered Republican. He has a master's degree from UCLA and campaigned for Nevada's state assembly in 2022, but lost in the primary election, according to local daily newspaper The Press-Enterprise.
Bianco said he is part of a right-leaning anti-government group and considers himself a sovereign citizen, someone who does not believe they are subject to government laws unless they agree to them.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-vem-miller-man-arrested-loaded-gun-outside-trump-rally-1968341
I'm more amused than I really should be about how they are eating their own now. Unless I'm misremembering, none of the three have been lefties of any stripe.
I don’t want to give any sovcits any credit at all but trumps recent rhetoric is so openly authoritarian that some of them might have actually realized the face eating leopard is a threat to them too
Edit: I can’t believe I just thought of this, but these could also be folks that hopes to start a civil war because they either believe it’s inevitable, are obsessed with the Turner Diaries, or both.
What's the Turner Diaries?
A white supremacist fever dream fanfiction in which American whites rise up under white supremacy and slaughter all people of color and "race traitors" in the country on the oft-cited "Day of the Rope." It culminates with the movement taking control of the US nuclear arsenal and taking their holocaust international.
And this is what lead up to the Oklahoma City bombing in the 90s.
Why can't 2nd amendment advocates open carry at Trump's rallies? Does he not support gun rights?
Does Donald "take the guns first, due process later" Trump support gun rights? You tell me.
I guess he doesn't have many teachers in the audience?
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I always said if they were shooting up boardrooms instead of classrooms we’d have gun control yesterday.
*FBI feverishly updating their watchlist
Lol
If I’m not on a list by now they’re not doing their job.
If I'm not on a list by now, I'm not doing my job.
Someone shot up a Congressional softball game. Nothing happened.
That’s not a boardroom. That’s just their employees.
Right? Congressmen are pretty cheap you just buy another one real easy.
Compromises and shoots school boards. Ends up on lemmybewholesome.
I call bullshit. He wasn't there to assassinate Trump. If he was, they sure as shit aren't letting him out on $5k bond the same day with only minor charges.
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They found him with a shotgun and a handgun and they think they stopped an assassination attempt? Sounds like bs; you’re not going to get close enough to use those unless someone really messes up at their job.
I think it's just the media trying to conflate it with assassination attempts. I doubt anyone involved actually thinks it was, but now Trump gets to throw this crap around and his supporters will believe it.
The article quotes the sheriffs dept as saying that they stopped an assassination attempt; the media is just reporting what they said. So, it sounds like the sheriffs dept are just inflating the issue to make themselves look better, which will give the trump campaign more fuel.
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So the NRA is going to hold a press conference about how this man's second amendment rights were infringed, right?
Also, every time I see "Trump rally in Coachella," for just a second I think, "why is he holding a rally at the music festival?"
Up until right now, I always thought Coachella was just the name of the festival, not a place - sort of like Burning Man.
I've never been more confused by a headline in my life.
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I consider this a step in the right direction.
The deranged armed lunatics are now starting to attack someone who deserves it instead of random innocent children.
This is actually MORE normal than the school shootings, and makes more sense. School children aren't coming for your lives and livelihoods, but DonOLD tRump? Definitely trying to make your life immeasurably worse in measurable ways.
This is what everyone keeps saying the 2nd amendment was for, right? Tyrants?
I'm closing this ticket with, "Operating as intended."
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Another Republican, I am shocked
Also a sovereign citizen.
If he's a SovCit, I'm surprised he doesn't have an RPG in his car to be honest. And it wouldn't have anything to do with Trump. It would have to do with their contract being violated or whatever.
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It's kind of amazing how this is suddenly all blowing back on him. His years of calling for violence is just causing all these guys to aim that violence towards him. Did he say something that pissed off/disappointed a subset of his followers or something?
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The guy interviewed Ivan Raiklin a couple weeks ago who is the "secretary of retribution." Ivan Raiklin was on Info Wars talking with Jones about how if Trump were assassinated, it would be the best case scenario for Republicans because Vance would be the candidate then and then Republicans would commit a "cleansing."
This seems like a bit of a conspiracy against Trump but it is coming from the right.
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/ivan-raiklin-trump-rally/
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Oh, but it was ok in 2009 when a guy attended an event that Obama was speaking at with an assault rifle? These Republicans sure don't like people to exercise their right to bear arms.
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high-capacity magazine
Notice how they never tell you what high capacity is.
A normal handgun--as in, a regular Glock 17--will have magazines that hold anywhere from 13-21 rounds in a bone-stock configuration, depending on caliber. The only firearms that don't have this kind of capacity are micro-compacts, and guns that were originally designed by John Moses Browning before WWII.
This is sleight of hand to make it seem like the perpetrator was doing something deeply nefarious, when damn near any defensive handgun is going to have a "high capacity" magazine straight from the factory.
booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a loaded firearm and possessing a high-capacity magazine.
Serious question: Is that a crime?
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What did dear leader do to these republicans? 😯
Oh come on, not again!
What about all the good guys with guns? We can stop this guy with guns in his car but school shootings? Impossible to prevent.
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