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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 354 points 4 months ago (53 children)

Remember, girls: any male friend you know that votes for Trump probably sees you as a piece of meat and wants to own you like property.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 142 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Imagine befriending a Trump voter. No thanks.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My mom a brown person liked trump last election whilst my father who follows politics hated him. Some people just don't know and that's a problem. My mom now hates him.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's some growth. I have a friend who I almost lost after he voted for Trump the first time. His excuse was the whole propaganda drain the swamp, and businessman running the country thing. He hates Trump now too and has since gone more toward the middle and Def stopped being and voting for reds. Baby steps.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)

See, I never got the whole businessman thing. Like, Trump's claim to fame in that area was that he'd driven his businesses to bankruptcy like 5 different times and had to get bailed out? And you want this man to be in charge?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yea anyone with half a brain would realize it but people just saw he was rich and said he's a businessman and never bothered to check.

It's actually why people always call me smart, I don't think I'm particularly smart but I always ask why and always take an extra step to check things out where most people would just take things at face value.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 7 points 4 months ago

Smart people do 2 things:

  • Ask questions

  • Realize other people are smarter than them

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly I think he won because he said he was going to not be a politician. People hate politicians and were happy to put someone in who was naive to all of it and who said he would fix all the corruption.

And then he went on to be a horrible human being on a day to day basis, usually via Twitter, was more corrupt than nearly anyone before him, and the only swamp he drained regularly was his own staff who he threw under the bus constantly.

I think he will lose this time because he already showed he won't do any of that. He hasnt even mentioned it this time has he.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well, this is just anecdotal, but my family members all voted for him because we had a hard R in the Whitehouse for 8 years and they were pissed about that.

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[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I hear this a lot. It's what gets me about the polling for this election being so close - in the last eight years, who has Trump actually attracted? Who exists that is like "I voted for Hillary and Biden, but I won't be fooled again!"

The learning really seems to go one way.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I lose sleep over this as well. There is a lot of evidence to suggest the polls are just wrong. Republicans have a long and consistent string of bad election losses since 2016. But still... In 2020 Biden was up in national polls and barely won. So if the same methodology is showing him down then what gives?

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[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I think its because a lot of people who are voting for biden are not answering polls.

I get messages about these polls daily now and its annoying AF. But I never answer them ever. I know a bunch of people my age in my community won't answer them either.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I can 100% forgive people who voted for him the first time around but later realized that was a mistake.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If you never watched his show, heard about the lawsuits against him, knew anyone he stifted on payments, heard him interviewed on Howard Stern or heard him speaking at rallies, sure.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

Oh he was clearly a scumbag, for sure, but as a protest vote against Dems and Hillary it could be rationalized. I don't think many knew how much lasting damage he would do. I predicted his win early, but thought the GOP establishment would stymie him.

[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Before 2016 I didn't know much about him aside from he's a rich dude with a golden tower who used to host a show. I can see someone not really paying attention i. 2016 and voting for him just because.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Don't date conservatives, don't sleep with them, don't befriend them, don't associate with them, being MAGA should result in your total ostracization. Unless you're in a situation where you have to, where cutting ties or ending the relationship/friendship will make you unsafe or put your livelihood or your home life at risk, you should cut them off. I cut ties with a lot of old friends who became conservatives. It's not a normal tolerable thing to be conservative. No one who believes the things they do should be tolerated. Their beliefs should, at the least, come at the cost of their relationships and friendships.

Conservatives do not respect human rights and human dignity. They do not believe that men and women are equal, that rich and poor are equal, or that black people and white people are equal. They'll make a facade of tolerant behavior that immediately crumbles under any scrutiny to show their bigotry. These bigots have governed every conceivable aspect of our lives for far too long.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Cut ties with a friend when he said the Jan 6 terrorists were justified. He lost a lot of friends then. Like literally every mutual friend of ours was done with him after that.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well said!

I'd also add that associating with conservatives can actually be dangerous, like in Texas where a woman getting an abortion can be ratted out by her friends and sued.

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In my life the only people who have stolen from me were all conservatives. Ironic given how obsessed they all are with their own property and "the law".

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s because what they’re really obsessed with is ‘rules for thee but not for me’.

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

They really believe success and happiness are only for those they deem worthy of it.

Maybe republicans just hate people.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Jon waters summed it up nicely:

"If you go home with someone and and they dont have books, dont fuck them."

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What if you get all of your books from the local library? Should I flash my library card as a turn on?

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[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I straight up walked out of a date once bc someone tried to hide voting for trump

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I went out on a date with a woman who actually did that to me, then tried to turn the date into a loud and aggressive Trump stump speech. This was back around 2015, right before the election. The waiter actually came and helped me get out of it. These people operate on another plane of reality. I sincerely wonder if she's still drinking the Kool-Aid.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

unsuccessfully stuffs MAGA hat into fanny pack

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm in San Francisco, not just the Bay Area. 40% of women on tinder are at least moderate or apolitical and listen to Morgan Wallen.

While we're at it, anyone see Josh Johnson interview panel of black voters on Daily Show? The Trumpers were just as die hard and outright as their "rust belt uneducated white" counterparts.

The amount of people that won't look at the comparative economic data or remember how bad it was then... Even if you can be in denial like others were last time around and put on P25 and SCOTUS blinders, this isn't campaign promises, it's personal experience and memories. I'm terrified.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There are women who vote for Turnip as well... I wonder what the gender ratio of fascists is.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, around half of the Trump voters are women. Turns out men and women actually seem to favor fascism pretty equally.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why they want the Catholic 10 commandments, instead of combining "I am your god" and "have no other gods besides me", the Catholic version splits those into two commandments, and take the last two and merges them: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife ... or any of his other property."

[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This comment made me head to Wikipedia to read up on the differences.

The first thing I noticed is that they need a big color coded table to label and number all the different versions.

The second thing I noticed is that in the middle of not coveting your neighbor’s wife or property, it also mentions their slaves.

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