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Context: Reddit made a few controversial annoucements, feel free to have a look at !reddit@lemmy.world

For people wanting to discuss why some people focus on Lemmy's growth, here is a recent thread from !asklemmy@lemmy.world :

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[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I'd rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren't here yet. Where are the cross post bots?

[–] Elevator7009@kbin.run 43 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The content/users aren't here so I'm stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.

Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

Although I understand it's not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

For people in similar situations, !fedigrow@lemm.ee

[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 10 points 3 months ago

Didn't know about that one. Just subscribed!

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was never much of an /r/all user, it's always been niche communities for me. I feel like almost all of my niches have content here now (if not quite as much engagement as I'd like). !retrogaming@lemmy.world in particular has exploded with activity lately and arguably can now serve as a full replacement for its subreddit counterpart.

Thing is, when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it's always "why?" and if I make it that far, "how?" With the how, I've been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it's still not as smooth as it could be. Eyes glaze over when anyone starts asking me about how the Fediverse in general works.

The why is harder. I don't know how much user bleed-over niche Reddit got from /r/all users but I'm guessing it wasn't a trivial amount. I'm sure a lot of Reddit's growth was owed to AMAs, so it's possible Lemmy might need something flashy to draw in users who will then filter into communities waiting for them. Some sort of content unique to the platform. I do think before we get there we need a friendlier way to help new people find communities they may have interest in.

when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it's always "why?" and if I make it that far, "how?" With the how, I've been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it's still not as smooth as it could be.

You don't have to bother with that. Just send them to a single instance to sign up. Stable, general-purpose instances like lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, or lemmy.zip are good recommendations. You don't really need to understand the details of how federation works to start using Lemmy. They can learn as they go.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Thanks for your service. I'm more of a lurker, though I tend to comment more here than on Reddit, and I have so many other things filling my life that I have to tend to. This is just a distraction before bed or filling a dull moment.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's what I'm doing. I got 2 subs that I frequented on Reddit I'm running, one is a sports one with discussions for the events, and it's literally just me putting commentary into it. But that's what I loved about the Reddit sports subs, so I'll at least have it for when people come here.

Thank you for your service. I have little interest in sports, but love to see Lemmy growth in general. We need a diversity of communities here, not just Linux memes :)

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 months ago

Which content are you interested in?

https://lemmit.online/ can be used to crosspost content from Reddit, but you won't get much comments as people tend to prefer content curated by humans

!newcommunities@lemmy.world has a weekly thread with active communities.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why not cross post some of the content yourself?

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have the time. This just fills the empty gaps in my day, before bed winding down

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that how it always goes. Everyone wants the end result, but nobody wants to do the work.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Weirdly, I didn't do any work to populate reddit either. It's almost like that would be impractical and unrealistic for an end user to do.

It's only impractical for a small userbase. As the userbase grows, the amount of posts each user needs to contribute in order to maintain an active community drops to a realistic level.

[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.

But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy's scaled algorithm still doesn't get it quite right IMO.

[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Scaled is intentionally promoting communities with fewer subscribers. It's intentionally demoting the most active posts bt demoting any posts from the communities with more subscribers.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Scaled is amazing for the Subscribed feed, because I'm (obviously) interested in the small communities that I'm subscribed to. But it's not quite the same when browsing All or Local. Usually I do stick to Subscribed though.

[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is my way too. But I default to new and switch to scaled and top-x from time to time.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

I also like the New Comments sort (forums style), I have a widget on my phone's home screen showing Subscribed - New Comments

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just.. content. I open my Lemmy app once and I've seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days. I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just.. content.

I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.

If all you want is "content" you can browse Lemmy by /all, sort by new, and also scroll for hours. That isn't how I use Lemmy (or Reddit) though, and it's not how I would recommend using it.

I open my Lemmy app once and I've seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days.

I almost exclusively browse by subscribed. When I first came to Lemmy, I kept subscribing to communities until I had too much content in my subscribed feed to keep up with. Over time, I've gradually unsubscribed to communities I'm only tangentially interested in, as communities for my main interests have grown.

Do you think an approach like this would work for you?

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. I already sort by all, and new is generally too low quality and frankly still too slow. I also switch to all on Reddit once I've skimmed over the first couple pages of my feed

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Maybe Top of the day / Top of 12 hours? New can be low quality indeed

[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Those bots got blocked and banned.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

Initially, yes. They probably relaxed it a bit.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Cross post bots? Why cross post bots?