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[-] ptman@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago

Electricity vs. energy. Electricity is only part of energy.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

Even still, this is a great progress in the last decade.

We're headed in the right direction, even if we better accelerate and spread practices elsewhere.

[-] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Can you clarify what the distinction is?

[-] pepperonisalami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

There are places where natural gas is used for heating and cooking by combustion. These tasks can also be done with electricity for the power source and then we'll be overall cleaner. However the transition is a massive task and requires a lot of convincing (e.g. that cooking with induction is as good or better even than gas, heat pump costs less in the long run).

[-] considine@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

And to celebrate that fact, Europe is joining the US in imposing massive tariffs on China's electric vehicles and solar cells. Yay.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I largely welcome restricting massproduced mobile surveillance machines made by a chinese hq'd company. Don't misunderstand me I hate teslas too for this, but we don't need more of this shit.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

We are not restricting the surveillance, just making it more expensive.

What we need is forced inspections of the source code and other ways to actually mitigate the security risks.

Just making things more expensive does nothing to mitigate actual the risk.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah I’m not buying any EV until I can get a bare bones model that can install some stripped down open source OS.

[-] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That’s a good thing imo. We do this so we can build up an industry for these things at home. That’s an important long term goal, too. If the last years have shown us anything it’s that being solely dependent on another state for certain critical stuff is a bad idea. And I’d say this is especially true for China.

Edit: btw German talking here, not American.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do you want to know how many cars in China are from European car manufacturers?

Rebalancing trade is not some big bogeyman.

[-] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don’t understand what argument you are trying to make. Can you elaborate? You mean we shouldn’t do it because there might be a counterreaction?

[-] solo@kbin.earth 7 points 2 weeks ago

I suppose greenwashing works? in the sense creates favorable stats, not that it helps the environment.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

You really don't like to admit even the smallest bit of positive news, do you?

[-] solo@kbin.earth 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Obviously I don't see this as good news because I can't see how ecology and capitalism can work together, unless it is greenwashing. Environmentalism/ecology/etc want sustainability, capitalism is all about eternal growth of the business, and I don't see corporations and other financial entities changing their business model? Do you?

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Liek the other commenter said, this could be read as 70% of electricity still relyingnon non renewables, which is a bad metric.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Reasonable people understand that transition is not an overnight process. Also adoption isn't linear which is why they say the first third is the biggest half.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Overnight? We've been implementing and talking about renewables since I was in high school, which was like more than 10 years ago already. Only 30% in 10 years is VERY slow. Being happy with 30% is not being reasonable, it's being in denial.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Infrastructure takes time, now factories and infrastructure is in place we'll see faster installation rates.

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Reasonable people are clearly being a little to reasonable. We have been looking at this for 50 years now. Exxon announced the issue in the 1970s.

But corperation. Including exxon under new leadership. Have spent a freaking fortune using false science and media lies. To try and slow down any effort to limit non renewable use.

So yes. Reasonable people are being way to fuckung reasonable.

Edit. And allowing corperations to be only concerned with profit. While killing human beings and destroying the planet.

Honestly if you add the amount of false science research funded purely to allow corperations to create anti climate change. This (plus the plastic industry.)

Have done way more intentional harm the the tobacco industry did whe they discovered the harm fro there products.

But at least many nations punished the tobacco lobby and fined them to help cover the costs.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty ironic that it took Putin invading Ukraine to make Europe invest into Renewables.

And not to save the planet but to be less dependent on Energy from fossil fuels...

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Energy think tank Ember found that major growth in wind and solar helped push global electricity production past this milestone in 2023.

Its authors say that this rapid growth has brought the world to a crucial turning point where fossil fuel generation starts to decline.

“You also have the invasion of Ukraine which increased the sense of urgency around transitioning to clean power and getting off relying on fossil fuels - not just coal but also gas, and particularly from Russia.

Plans were put in place to help individual member states reach renewable energy targets and deploy technologies at a national scale.

“Certainly you can't ignore that there was some demand [based] impact on the decrease in use of fossil fuels, but also there was a significant role of wind and solar replacing it.”

Normally this would have meant that the clean energy capacity added around the world last year would have caused fossil fuel generation to drop by 1.1 per cent.


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