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[–] solo@kbin.earth 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I suppose greenwashing works? in the sense creates favorable stats, not that it helps the environment.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You really don't like to admit even the smallest bit of positive news, do you?

[–] solo@kbin.earth 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously I don't see this as good news because I can't see how ecology and capitalism can work together, unless it is greenwashing. Environmentalism/ecology/etc want sustainability, capitalism is all about eternal growth of the business, and I don't see corporations and other financial entities changing their business model? Do you?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Capitalism is helping destroy fossil fuels. Solar and hydro electricity is cheaper than fossil fuels.

Government subsidies - interference with he capitalist market - are propping up the oil industry (and the meat industry, while we're at it).

Properly regulated capitalism is perfectly capable of fixing the climate crisis. Ecology and capitalism work together when going green is cheaper than using fossil fuels.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Liek the other commenter said, this could be read as 70% of electricity still relyingnon non renewables, which is a bad metric.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Reasonable people understand that transition is not an overnight process. Also adoption isn't linear which is why they say the first third is the biggest half.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Overnight? We've been implementing and talking about renewables since I was in high school, which was like more than 10 years ago already. Only 30% in 10 years is VERY slow. Being happy with 30% is not being reasonable, it's being in denial.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Infrastructure takes time, now factories and infrastructure is in place we'll see faster installation rates.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Reasonable people are clearly being a little to reasonable. We have been looking at this for 50 years now. Exxon announced the issue in the 1970s.

But corperation. Including exxon under new leadership. Have spent a freaking fortune using false science and media lies. To try and slow down any effort to limit non renewable use.

So yes. Reasonable people are being way to fuckung reasonable.

Edit. And allowing corperations to be only concerned with profit. While killing human beings and destroying the planet.

Honestly if you add the amount of false science research funded purely to allow corperations to create anti climate change. This (plus the plastic industry.)

Have done way more intentional harm the the tobacco industry did whe they discovered the harm fro there products.

But at least many nations punished the tobacco lobby and fined them to help cover the costs.