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[–] considine@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And to celebrate that fact, Europe is joining the US in imposing massive tariffs on China's electric vehicles and solar cells. Yay.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I largely welcome restricting massproduced mobile surveillance machines made by a chinese hq'd company. Don't misunderstand me I hate teslas too for this, but we don't need more of this shit.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We are not restricting the surveillance, just making it more expensive.

What we need is forced inspections of the source code and other ways to actually mitigate the security risks.

Just making things more expensive does nothing to mitigate actual the risk.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah I’m not buying any EV until I can get a bare bones model that can install some stripped down open source OS.

[–] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That’s a good thing imo. We do this so we can build up an industry for these things at home. That’s an important long term goal, too. If the last years have shown us anything it’s that being solely dependent on another state for certain critical stuff is a bad idea. And I’d say this is especially true for China.

Edit: btw German talking here, not American.

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you want to know how many cars in China are from European car manufacturers?

Rebalancing trade is not some big bogeyman.

[–] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don’t understand what argument you are trying to make. Can you elaborate? You mean we shouldn’t do it because there might be a counterreaction?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s a good thing imo. We do this so we can build up an industry for these things at home.

Unfortunately, most countries haven't really done much to invest into the production of solar cells in their home country in the last twenty years (Germany is a noteworthy exception), so why would they start now?

Realistically, imposing tariffs on chinese PV cells will only slow the energy transition, instead of building up domestic production.

[–] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gandalf, hast du gerade auf nen 2 Monate alten Beitrag von mir geantwortet? :)

Ja, ist ja immer noch relevant. :-)