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The United States House of Representatives has overwhelmingly passed a bill that would expand the federal definition of anti-Semitism, despite opposition from civil liberties groups.

The bill passed the House on Wednesday by a margin of 320 to 91, and it is largely seen as a reaction to the ongoing antiwar protests unfolding on US university campuses. It now goes to the Senate for consideration.

If the bill were to become law, it would codify a definition of anti-Semitism created by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) in Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

IHRA’s working definition of anti-Semitism is “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities”.

According to the IHRA, that definition also encompasses the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity”.

The group also includes certain examples in its definition to illustrate anti-Semitism. Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.

Rights groups, however, have raised concerns the definition nevertheless conflates criticism of the state of Israel and Zionism with anti-Semitism.

In a letter sent to lawmakers on Friday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) urged House members to vote against the legislation, saying federal law already prohibits anti-Semitic discrimination and harassment.

“Instead, it would likely chill free speech of students on college campuses by incorrectly equating criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism.”

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[–] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 119 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So it's ok to call students that are protesting against a genocide Nazis but not the people actually committing the genocide. Got it.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's OK to call anyone not aligned with the Republican Party a Nazi, because it's important that words have no real meaning. Once words have no meaning, the ideas behind them fade as well. This is double plus ungood.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 117 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the Israelis don't want to be compared to Nazis maybe they ought to stop acting like Nazis

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It would also help if more than a handful of people in the House knew semitic is a pretty archaic term and would include Palestinians in Gaza as well as Israelis and people from several other countries as well.

Protected classes are race, religion, national origin, age, pregnancy status, gender, citizenship, disability or veteran, family status or genetic information. Nobody gets protections for genocide.

Edit: genetic not generic

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 110 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, what do you call a person that performs ethnic genocide?

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 67 points 6 months ago (2 children)

American?

😂😂😂😂😂

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hey!

Aw who am I kidding, I know my country's bloodstained history despite my public education. I wish I could say it was in our past and that we're better now, but we're literally funding this exact genocide. 🫠

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[–] Railison@aussie.zone 95 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So about that freedom of speech…

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 57 points 6 months ago

That's double-plus ungood wrongthink, citizen. Report for re-education.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 15 points 6 months ago

What about it? You are still free to say exactly what the government wants you to say

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

I get the feeling a lot of our more vocal free speech absolutists are going to be conspicuously quiet on this one.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Adding IHRA’s definition to the law would allow the federal Department of Education to restrict funding and other resources to campuses perceived as tolerating anti-Semitism.

The campus crackdown is definitely going too far. Vietnam War protestors were treated the same way. It escalated, and the cops opened fire at Kent State.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

The state guard fired on students at Kent State not the cops.

The difference today is kids got guns and will fire back.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 72 points 6 months ago

Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.

Lmao this is a guilty conscience talking.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck?

Fuck zionists and their disproportionate amount of control over the world.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good thing their silly religious stories will never come true.

Imagine being disappointed for eternity.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Zionism is a racist colonial ideology, merely using religion as a tool. Theodor Herzl, founder of zionism, said so himself

“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]

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[–] exanime@lemmy.today 59 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah, free speech in the land of the free

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

Only free for zionists and the corporations. You know, the wealthy people. Not for the silly plebes.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 58 points 6 months ago

Bruh literal facism

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 56 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Always the same map

A bit surprising that "israel" didn't vote against it, but that would be a bit too on the nose I guess.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Whiteness index map

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Always the same map

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[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But Nazism is completely legal in the US?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

Looking very much so.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thereby rendering the definition of antisemitism meaningless.

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[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 45 points 6 months ago

Zionists are also thieves because they are buying stolen Gaza land.

I have sat at passover with Zionists and they are the dumbest shittiest people just like the crazy evangelicals. Just shit people.

Good luck on getting them to admit any type of fault.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 40 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Legitimate criticism of the Israeli government and IDF is being actively outlawed in the western world as governments support the brutal mass killing in Gaza.

Condemnation of Russia's invasion of Ukraine or China's actions in Xinjiang rings completely hollow. Western governments really are the people in glass houses throwing stones.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

at least you have freedom dont ya, us?

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[–] impure9435@kbin.run 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's what happens when corrupt politicians are paid by AIPAC

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Got your cart before the horse: the US controls Israel, the control Israeli lobbyists have over it is secondary to that.

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[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Are all Israelis Jewish? The US is such a fucking joke at this point. And it's tedious to block community after community on lemmy to avoid the noise of vapidness. Good luck with your fucked up politics.

PS: I'd recommend excluding US specific news from "world news". Not sure if this stuff is moderated, or if those who do, give af about it.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

The politics of the global hegemon affects the entire world, as much as we hate it. Specially when it's regarding a country they're currently committing genocide in.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

3/4 are Jewish which is an overwhelming majority but I also think there are great reasons to separate the classifications of Israeli and Jew. Mainly because the state is not led by the religion but instead by elected leaders.

Though that separation of church and state does seem to be diminishing as Bibi and his far right ultraorthodox cronies do seem to be slowly turning it into more of an authoritarian state.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wonder what other things they'll make illegal to compare to Nazis. Cause once you're banning disparaging speech, why stop there?

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[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

The highest order of interference in the US comes from AIPAC, it must go

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These people must know all this does is destroy the legitimacy of your authority. Israel is committing genocide. Its happening. Changing legal definitions will not change how many bodies are piled in Gaza. The mounds of dead children cannot be legislated into something moral.

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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

At some point US troops will invade to bring democracy to such an autoritarian country

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 months ago

This gives the USA too much credit. It doesn't invade other countries to save them from tyranny. It invades them because it wants to control them for strategic or economic purposes.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago

That's called a Nazi apologist law. That's making a subset of Nazis accepted and censoring those against them at the same time.

I thought I won't see such decay in my lifetime, but then life is never boring.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

As a Jew I have never felt less respected by Congress than them appropriating the concept of antisemitism to further their own oppressive political ends. Fuck it's so gross.

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