Funny thing is, EULA agreements like this have already been shot down in so many cases, it's dumb at this point to try and pull this off. They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.
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They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.
What would be the benefit to such a move?
Thirty-seven cents for every Discord user.
Groundwork for "the next step", which is expecting zero privacy, and all your messages are sold. Mark me.
But even so they costs the companies involved millions, they wouldn't want to be dragged through one
Yeah, not sure why folks care
I can sue discord and there's nothing their EULA can do to stop me.
God bless our right to litigate*
*terms and conditions apply: enough money to win in a battle of attrition
*For US users
EU users are already protected so this doesn't apply to them.
Its amazing that a company in the US can simply demand that if you use their services you have to agree not to sue them. Its one of the only reasons anyone could or would sue them!
Don't forget the use of mandatory employment arbitration which effectively reduces workers rights by not allowing them a right to legal action.
Just tacking on to your comment for any US workers:
Just because you can't sue for your rights doesn't mean nobody can. The government is often perfectly happy to sue on your behalf to recover lost wages or to punish workplace health and safety violations.
wow! and they think people don't want to work!
bUt wE aLsO wAiVE tHe rIgHT to SuE yOu! says the company who doesn't stand to gain anything from suing its users
Common W for the EU
...in the USA. Doesn't affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.
…in the USA. Doesn’t affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.
Really appreciate you guys over there keeping up the pressure on corporations to act ethically/ accordingly.
Here's hoping some of that splash back happens over here.
High five for unalienable rights
Came to say this. Here in the AU you cannot exclude certain things, this being one of them. They can write it all they like into the TOS, but cannot be enforced. There are many examples, but basically no TOS/Warranty/T&C can exclude or explicitly deny any rights you have or laws that protect you.
Similar to warranty here. Many companies like to put "limited liability" and 30 day warranty. But in AU, the warranty has to fall within our laws. (for example Samsung saying warranty on a $5000 TV is 2 years. Well in AU if the tv is that expensive, you have the right to claim warranty on manufacturing failure for at least 5 years.) Many items we buy here, have an "Australia only warranty amendment page" stuffed in the box!
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Companies can do that in US? Sounds like a loophole...
There are many, we're just oblivious because it doesn't affect us in our day to day lives. I'm sure there are loopholes in the EU as well.
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Welcome to the corpocracy and the land of the fee.
Go ahead, give Discord your address
It already has anyway. Ive requested my discord data once and everytime you do anything in discord it explicitly saves and stores the location of where you were when you interacted with discord.
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Just opt out of discord. It’s a lot easier.
OK, but my raid leader is going to have to shout a lot louder than that if I'm going to hear him from the Netherlands.
Nah, just get a pair of cups and a really long string.
Who keeps the string under tension on the ocean, huh? /s
That's why each team has a support.
OK, but my raid leader is going to have to shout a lot louder than that if I’m going to hear him from the Netherlands.
Yeah, market share is a bitch.
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I attempted to email opt-out@discord.com per the ToS and got a bounceback.
The article says arbitration-opt-out@discord.com
Also be sure that you send it from the email associated with your account. As per the update on the situation discord gave, in which it announced an extended deadline of 90 days up from 30 days from April 15th or account creation, the contents of the email don't seem to matter much.
I included my account userid and username just to be safe.
Ah, thanks!
A bounceback? What does that mean? Anyways I sent three emails to arbitration-opt-out@discord.com but got no replies at all.
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Everyone calm down. They're just going to use it for training AI and if you love tech you love AI. So this is a non-issue.
The trained AI will make their public offering so much more desirable
I just deleted my account & it solved all my discord problems.
It’s cute you think deleting your account means they’ve removed your user and information from their servers.
Id assume one could have them do that if they lived in EU
Im considering the info i gave them as lost to discord. But now I'm not giving them more.
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I deleted my Discord account 2 days ago, and I'm very happy with that choice. Conversations / Any XMPP client is significantly better than Discord in terms of direct messaging and small groups for friends. Some of my friends haven't switched to Conversations yet, but at that point it is their choice to not speak with me outside of work.
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