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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 115 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To understand how unhinged our society is one only needs to understand how we constantly improve our technology, but don't use it to improve us as a society.

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Primitive metallurgy was used to create weapons for millennia before it became commonly used for cookware. Technology has always been primarily used as vector for human beings to control and dominate one another, rather than to assist/improve society.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didn't say we used to be better. We've always been a shitshow.

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. It just seems more absurd now because of the contrast between our advanced technology and our primitive sociopolitical structures.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Oh man, this is a thing I wish more people understood. The day of the first real human flight and the day a human being walked on ground that wasn't earth only have about a 66 year gap. A lot of old folks who watched the moon landing saw the invention and proliferation of the airplane in their lifetime.

However, the engrams and algorithms that make up the human mind have been in constant development for tens of thousands of years. Far, far longer if you want to count previous versions that led up to what we're packing. A popular trope in some older fiction was to displace prehistoric critters into the modern world and detail the chaos. But that's us. We're it. We're the cavemen in a world of microscopic circuit boards.

Our achievements have far outpaced our ability to constrain them. Like, when we discovered radiation, we started putting that shit in everything. Fucking toothpaste. And sure, we learn, we improve, we adapt. Humans are exceptionally good at that. But it just seems to me as it has seemed to far bigger minds than my own that we're still banging rocks together and fighting over resources, it's just now the rocks have a faint glow and the resources are measured in GDP

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that was back when wildlife was much more of a threat. And probably also a lot more risk of criminals or other bandits. Making a weapon to protect your tribe is not really in the same ball park as this.

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 87 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Pretty ironic for this article to have a paywall.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Get Firefox and use reader mode right after the page loads.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is it any wonder why we pirate and adblock. Im not going to embrace hostility, im going to fight fire with fire. Every time.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget open source software.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Open Source Software is definitely pretty 🔥 if you ask me!

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Even the article itself is hostile as i cant read it because it’s paywalled

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Reminds me of those gas stations that play commercials at the pumps. More and more of them are disabling the mute buttons. I only stop at stations with the TV-free pumps now.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (5 children)

There are fuel pumps that show ads? Where do you live? That's crazy to me

[–] Zink@pawb.social 25 points 7 months ago

American thing

Not in my town, but they're not hard to find literally anywhere in the US

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I just want to emphasize how loud these can be for the unfamiliar as well. Like blaring into your ear while you pump. Also, some of the really loud ones are not synced pump to pump so you'll get this shouting weird echo while at the pump. I think Tesla probably gave the gas stations a grant to put these things in. It seriously has contributed toward my motivation to go go electric for next car.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't have believed that if you hadn't expanded upon it a little. Right out of a dystopian movie

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[–] EntropyPure@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I think it’s an US thing. Have yet to encounter something like that in Europe.

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[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs."

– Banksy

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I have yet to encounter one that lets me mute it…

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Push the second button down on the right 3 times

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or up down up down left right A, B works sometimes.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

that's the code for free gas

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just spam all the buttons as fast as possible. I usually can seem to softlock the display but the transaction old school display still works properly.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

hahahaha enshittification working against itself ! the future really is poorly performing code sitting on top of antisocial designs. What a timeline

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[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

One of these days I'm going to find out where they hide those speakers and when I do I'm bringing an icepick to the pump.

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago

I'm glad that The Atlantic is covering this issue. Nothing groundbreaking here for anyone who follows these issues, but the Atlantic's audience overlaps a lot with actual policymakers and their staffs. The tech companies don't want to be regulated by the government, so coverage by these types of publications may be a good starting point for reform (whether voluntary or regulated).

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The end is here. You will love not owning your TV and it's sending ads directly into your brain.

Your phone will make calls without you and your PC will do the work for you so can watch more ads.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Our records indicate you haven't received your Neuralink implant yet. Please report to the Elon Musk Centre for Compulsory Happiness next Thursday at ten. Failure to comply will result in your arrest.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

You have 20 seconds to comply

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sorry but this article is just false and misleading.

The company currently has no ability to see what users might be doing when they switch away from its proprietary streaming platform. This is apparently a problem, in that Roku is missing monetization opportunities!

Now look here.

https://lemmy.world/post/9840946

Look at the logo in the bottom right.

Roku is already doing this and has been since last year. This is not a threat. It is a promise to shareholders and advertisers, and they have already fulfilled it.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 27 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The real question is whether or not you can still buy a dumb TV in 2024.

[–] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'm one of the crazy people who spent 4 grand on a 85 inch dumb display meant for stores to use as digital signage. Honestly a great decision. It's no home theater display but damn if it isn't just as good as any smart tv I've seen. I just have it hooked to a raspberry pi running librelec.

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rooting an Android TV gets you there, plus you get a TV that you actually own. It's super niche and difficult to do, though. Hard to find info on which TVs can be rooted.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is any of that information centralised anywhere? I still have and love my old dumb TV, but I want to be prepared for when I am inevitably dragged in to the "smart" era.

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I use video projectors. Many of them, typically the better ones do not have any built-in smarts requiring an Internet connection.

In general, smart devices are a major security risk, and need to be firewalled off.

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 7 months ago

There really needs to be laws requiring any smart device to have, like, 20 years of security patches, customer support and liability if anything goes wrong. If they want to place a device, that they insist needs internet access, in my home, they need to, at the very least, pay their way.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

business opportunity, Smart TV lobotomies.

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

You can, but now it's called "a big monitor and your own server with a personal media library".

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