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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 167 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The centrists has their basic needs met and isn't part of a social group that is threatened so they see both as a waste of tax spending.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago (4 children)

"If we just improve the education system, racism will go away." - My centrist friend

Bro, no. Also, who the fuck do you think is trying to fund education? Assuming we even accept your premise.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 116 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Education does help, or the right wouldn't be trying to gut it so hard. But it's not all we need

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[–] geoff@lemm.ee 39 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Implied by this: centrists see all this mainly as a financial matter.

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[–] esc27@lemmy.world 104 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Maybe I’m the centrist in this scenario, but isn’t that just normal left? I’d expect far left to be like “we are going to exterminate all the rich then give their stuff to everyone else”

[–] Maven@lemmy.world 110 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In the US at least, the entire country is so far right that the position above is actually far left in our political sphere.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Haha yeah US is so backwards. And I'm surprised the world hasn't built a massive wall around us because we literally use God as part of our laws, how many weapons we have stockpiled, how many citizens die from unnecessary violence, how little we care about the homeless.

And any sort of empathy about any of those problems, even pointing it out, isnt even a discussion point in politics because itll go nowhere fast.

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[–] Pot@kbin.social 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The 'far left' described in that tweet is the 'center right' in Norway. USA politics feels weird and alien to Europeans.

[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

I mean it feels weird and alien to us too.

All of it makes a lot more sense when viewed through the lens of who has money and who wants that money.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by "far." If you mean believing in a radical restructuring of society along Communist lines, this can be done peacefully. Pacifism is an extremist position as well. Conflating "radicalism" with "violence" is just centrism at work.

On the same hand, there are extremely violent centrists. Kissinger murdered millions of people as a liberal, for example, which is a center-right ideology. Centrism isn't about non-violence.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

we are going to exterminate all the rich

Only edgy teens on social media genuinely think this is a logical political goal you should advocate for in the first world on this day and age

then give their stuff to everyone else

If you change this to: "concentration of private property in few hands is a poisonous hydra that will forever feed inequality", then yes, that's a milquetoast far left take, which often comes from the desire of actually "getting everyone's needs met" and the idea that capitalism naturally organizes the economy in a way that disincentives letting a portion of the working class being comfortably capable of getting all their needs met.

And honestly, given the positions of most politicians on actually doing something to make housing affordable, I honestly think "getting everyone's needs met" is becoming a far left position.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 98 points 8 months ago (10 children)

USA: we don't have a left. Democrats are at best center.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 months ago

USA has a left. They almost never win at the ballot box, though. You have to find them in the streets.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You don't have a right either though, at least not a right on the democratic spectrum.

All you've got are "unacceptable" and "fascism".

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago
[–] lugal@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The answer is always in the middle. Let's do a little basic needs but only for the rich and a little genocide but only in the middle east

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is actually the platform of the Democratic Party.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago (10 children)

It says something, that securing people's basic needs is considered "far" left.

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[–] Flumpkin 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tankies on Hexbear: Both fascists, you really shouldn't vote

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago

People who already have their needs accounted for always seem so convinced that things will turn out hunky dory if things escalate to violence, and yet so rarely pass thought on the folks who are already struggling enough without The Troubles Part II Red Cap Boogaloo coming to a car bombing near them.

[–] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Well I don't think we can meet everybody's needs so I'm unfortunately gonna have to side with the other movement, sorry!"

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[–] vampire@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (26 children)

my team: perfect angels

your team: evil monsters

it literally does not matter what two groups you are comparing, if you sound like this then a lot of people are not going to engage

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

why do people say these thing when they know its not true

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[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 23 points 8 months ago

Far centre: Would you guys just fuck already.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Well, it's hard to tell liberals and conservatives apart, mostly because liberalism isn't left wing, but actually slightly right from centre, and both liberalism and conservativism share some similarities.

This is what McCarthyism did. It's the great goal post mover.

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[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's funny to see people that have swallowed anti communist peograganda hook line and sinker flounder in here trying to discredit the far left.

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[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (24 children)

Leftists: never show up to vote

Also leftists: nothing ever gets done. Both parties must be the same

Edit:

More info from Pew 2022 election polls:

Age and the 2022 election Age continues to be strongly associated with voting preferences in U.S. elections. Nearly seven-in-ten voters under 30 (68%) supported Democratic candidates in 2022 – much higher than the shares of voters ages 30 to 49 (52%), 50 to 64 (44%) and 65 and older (42%) who did so. Compared with 2018, GOP candidates performed better among voters who turned out across age groups.

Also:

Older voters turned out more reliably in both elections – and continued to be largely loyal to Republican candidates.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

centrists are usually right wing wanting the votes/approval from left

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Centrists are right wing afraid to call themselves right wing.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

The right wing in the US is so fucking right wing that what is considered right wing elsewhere are called democrats

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