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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 167 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The centrists has their basic needs met and isn't part of a social group that is threatened so they see both as a waste of tax spending.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago (4 children)

"If we just improve the education system, racism will go away." - My centrist friend

Bro, no. Also, who the fuck do you think is trying to fund education? Assuming we even accept your premise.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 116 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Education does help, or the right wouldn't be trying to gut it so hard. But it's not all we need

[–] uis@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Education system is broad enough term for your friend to be correct

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Your friend is sort of correct. Improving education across the board would do leaps and bounds to help solve the problem.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it -3 points 9 months ago

As if whole branches of science hadn't been proved to be racist both bottom up and top down

[–] geoff@lemm.ee 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Implied by this: centrists see all this mainly as a financial matter.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Centrists are unwilling to accept change or inconvenience. This differs from conservatives who think things should go back to some sort of old way.

[–] Flumpkin 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's really impossible to know what you mean here, because conservative should mean to keep doing what works: They should be social democrats (what worked to build the US e.g. Nixon lol). So we shouldn't use that word any more. True conservatism would be more left wing than democrats today.

The GOP has become a reactionary or "paleo-conservative" which is really a misnomer too. What they really are now is a theocratic fascist party. But really they have no values at all except power and hate and inequality.

There are no real centrists, there is no center here. They are really corporatists who are willing to play politics in order to please the big capitalists or plutocracy. They love trump because they can keep cutting of left wing politics and not have a platform. In foreign policy they are fascist as well (american exceptionalism, a belief in inequality based on identity).

[–] hglman@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The gop are not the reactionary part, the DNC is. They are also centrists between the gop and a ghost of policies to the left.

[–] Flumpkin 5 points 9 months ago

I think we're speaking different languages.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We gotta stop callin them conservatives. These shits are trying to roll things back, not keep it as-is. They're the opposite of progressive: they're regressive.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That would be reactioners, not conservatives. You guys also have problem of reactioners taking name of conservatives.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

American Centrist are reactionaries, American conservatives are not reactionaries. That is my point.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

"If this were a real problem then Bill Gates would have fixed it but now."

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right, of course, but a key trait of sociopaths is viewing people through the lens of what they can do for them.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying centrists are sociopaths?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago

I'm saying anyone who views other people this way has sociopathic tendencies. They just mentioned centrists.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Balance is required to see things clearly. Just because both sides suck equally in their own 'special' way doesn't change the fact they are their own worst enemy.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I wanted to say how I have my basic needs met, isn't part of social group that is threatened and don't see left as waste of tax spending, but then I remembered about good Uncle Voencom that happily sends to die for Putin's yacth, so I don't count as not part of social group that is threatened.