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[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 155 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border," the statement said.

I don't think it's objectively possible to be more mismanaged than the current Texan electrical grid.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's perfectly managed if your priority is corporate profits...

If you want the cheapest, most environmentally friendly, or stable supply, well, then youre not the priority.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know if it's corporate profits, that's actually a drawback to the corporate grid(see Enron's intentional mismanagement of California's energy grid)

It's just pure power for the ruling elite of Texas.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Keeping their grid only in Texas allows their energy sector to skirt federal regulations since it doesn't fall under the Interstate Commerce Clause.

Skipping federal environmental and Safety regulations allows texas energy Corporations to be more profitable.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 68 points 9 months ago

Secessionists in Texas have called a bill that would require the state's power grid to connect to the nation's major grids a "direct attack" on efforts to make Texas an independent nation.

I think an attack is what actively trying to secede from the nation gets you

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I also oppose this bill, because I don't think that the rest of the country's power grids should be negatively impacted by Texas' grid mismanagement.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actually it wouldn't. If they connect to the federal grid they're subject to federal regulation. The whole reason they did their own thing originally is that they didn't want to be subject to the tyranny of the federal government.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

As a Texan, I believe we could use a lot more of the Federal Government intervening in our state affairs.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

"Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border," the statement said.

Oh bless your heart. You don't understand just how fucked you are, considering y'all couldn't keep your grid working a few winters ago and have been the butt of that joke literally every winter since (and going forward as well).

Maybe y'all can just fly to Cancun like Raphael did?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Evey cold winter, every hot summer, people in Texas die because of that shitty power grid. Texas nationalists: "Let them keep dying!"

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border," the statement said.

Okay, if you feel that strongly about it, how about you fix and winterize the Texas power grid so your residents don't go without power for days on end?

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

No! That would cost MONEY!

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They should be getting upset at more things. Don't stop at power. Do food too. And trade. Be a independent, stop relying on federal government aid.

[–] TardisBeaker@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

And highways. Those idiots have no idea how much federal funding goes to their million miles of highways.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 43 points 9 months ago (3 children)

As an american in the PNW, I strongly support Texit. With the immigration nightmares we have in the south, a large southern boarder state that we could close our boarders to would greatly help. Right now, federal law allows them to ship immigrants around the country, but an international boarder would solve that problem.

Further, to avoid tarrifs, most mexican shipping would reroute to california, arizona, and new mexico. Moving the hubs of shipping closer to my part of the country would reduce costs.

So go crazy, you glorious idiots.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

As an American in Texas, I strongly support you not egging on these fucks that want to ruin MY HOME even more than they already are. The repuglicunts have been in power for 30 years and have drug this state down into the dirt with them.

[–] shani66@ani.social 7 points 9 months ago

Not to be a dick, but your home is already ruined. More trash can't ruin a dump.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

With the immigration nightmares we have in the south, a large southern boarder state that we could close our boarders to would greatly help.

If you think controlling the Rio Grande is difficult, I do not believe you'll find that the northern side of Texas will be much easier. If nothing else, you're going to need a lot more razor wire.

Further, to avoid tarrifs, most mexican shipping would reroute to california, arizona, and new mexico.

If Texit happens, Arizona will be quick to follow. Which is to say, it won't, and for all the same reasons.

But California already does a ton of direct traffic with Mexico, as sea shipping tends to be far faster and cheaper than overland travel, particularly given the deplorable state of our southern rail networks.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Democratic lawmakers introduced the Connect the Grid Act last week, aimed at ensuring the state's power grid does not fail again like it did during 2021's Winter Storm Uri, which left millions without power for days and claimed hundreds of lives. Rep. Greg Casar of Texas said by requiring the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) to connect to neighboring grids, Texas would be able to avoid similar tragedies in the future. ERCOT serves most of the state's 30 million residents.

It's a bill by a House Democratic that will never see a floor vote much less a trip to the Senate or the Governor's desk.

Texas residential housing getting energy bills that jump from $15/MW to $3000/MW isn't a bug, its a feature. If connecting to the grid dilutes the leverage that local gas power plants have in gouging electricity prices, there's no way this is going to pass.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They'd be stupid enough to try it. It would be like Brexit, just a thousand times worse.

[–] Postreader2814@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Plus the reintroduction of slavery into Texas's constitution.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Reminder that slavery is still legal under the US Constitution’s 13th amendment.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Brexit didn't involve the central government bringing in armed forces to quash the rebellion, so this will definitely be a thousand times worse at the least. Texit would be the start of a civil war because the government won't let them leave, and I'm sure some other idiot governor would try to send their local guard detachment to 'help'.

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[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 34 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I literally moved out of state because of that storm and the finger pointing afterwards. I hate Abbot, I hate the Republicans, and I hate anyone who aligns themselves with those factions. It's been 3 years and I'm still furious.

[–] thragtacular@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Meanwhile my brother in law apparently had some life-altering experience because his kids were cold in the house and still refuses to lift a fucking finger to get out of this shitbag state.

Mayonnaise motherfuckers will allow this state to flourish despite everything.

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

You left your home because of it. You're entitled to your anger. Hope things are better where you are now.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is a direct attack from the progressive left to try and stop Texit. They know that Texit is inevitable and they are trying to make independence harder—we won't let them.

Lol, you think your red-wing leaders are going to allow 'Texit' to happen, when it would ensure the federal loss of Republican majorities for decades?

[–] thragtacular@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Texit would result in...

  • A perpetual Democratic majority in the US.
  • A sudden spike in available Federal road construction dollars, as Texas will no longer be usurping a massive chunk more than they contribute.
  • The closing and relocation of numerous military bases, which would utterly devastate a number of communities that only hang on because of the thousands of welfare queen freeloaders polishing knobs while wearing camo.
  • Texas suddenly needing to find sources for things like corn and wheat.
  • Tens of thousands of businesses instantly shuttering and moving to other states because they literally cannot be operated outside of the United States. Like... you know... the fucking aerospace industry or anything with encryption.
  • The sudden realization that they do not have a military and thus no way to defend their borders without Cletus and his yokel buddies.
  • The slightly less sudden realization that Cletus was vaporized from fifteen miles away by a missile fired from an F35.
  • A descent into Russia-tier dipshittery.
  • Getting hit in the face that without the Federal government to play off as the boogeyman the Texas legislature would have to actually fucking accomplish something for once.

That last one is what will insure none of these inch-dick GOP fucks let this happen. They KNOW they're worthless. They KNOW they're trash humans. They KNOW they have created a base that will absolutely murder them the moment the bread runs out.

So I'm all in favor of Texit. There are literally no downsides for me.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your last point is exactly what happened with Brexit. Guess what? They are still blaming all the bad stuff on Brussels.

[–] thragtacular@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Of course. Because it's always the "other" with right-wingers. Not a genuine human in the bunch.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Texit 2024 let's make it happen baby 🤣

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Somebody.

Go get the biggest dictionary you can find and start thumping these idiots with it.

They need to understand that words do in fact mean things. And given how “devout” they are, I suspect thumping with large books is the only way to get anything across.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Florida and Texas never fail to make me laugh.

[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

And cry. Lots of crying.

[–] Emmy@lemmy.nz 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow, the US is really running as fast as it can to its own dark age/middle age isn't it?

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Cold in Texas, for sure

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They are ironically the opposite of nationalists. Secessionists, Separatists, or at best, Nationalists only for the old Republic of Texas (which was a country after separating from Mexico but before joining the US).

[–] TardisBeaker@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yes, that's exactly what these asshats are. Texas, not USA, is the "country" they're nationalist about. That's why they call themselves Texas Nationalists not nationalist Texans. A bunch of them are actually nationalist Texans too but they're too dumb to see the contradiction. Just like they're too dumb to see the contradiction when flying a US flag & a confederate flag together. They're not the sharpest tools in the shed; they'd literally shoot off their own feet if they thought it might pwn the libs.

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[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

I like how they didn't provide an alternate solution to this. Mr. Miller is showing real Texas leadership potential.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Looks like right-wing extremists are upset at white power.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What percentage of the population there agree with this asshat? People of Texas, is this common or are they just interviewing the crazies and trying to convince us there's a problem?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Nobody I know in Texas supports it but then again I only know liberal Texans

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have seen “Texit” or “Come and Take It”, etc bumper stickers on the ridiculously tall trucks with huge tires and huge exhausts blowing black smoke into your AC if you’re behind them…the types that also fly the huge Trump/“Back the Blue”/Don’t Tread on Me flags in the back. The ones who will drive these monstrosities then blame Biden when gas is too high because these things have such low gas mileage that they have to frequently refuel.

So yeah that’s not uncommon to see, but I don’t know any of these people personally and I’ve never had a conversation with anyone who supports it and brings it up in conversation. Basically I don’t really ever think about it until I see one of the bumper sticker trucks, but the truck in itself is so over the top that it’s hard to take seriously. It’s like a caricature.

But reading an article like this makes me worried that it may be gaining traction amongst more folks than just the truck people.

Also, when you’re not from Texas but then move here, it’s just fucking weird how ingrained/indoctrinated it is to think Texas is superior in every way to…basically anywhere or anything. They were their own country, they have their own songs, they say their own state pledge after the US pledge in schools (my partner is an educator and we laughed when we learned that….like what the fuck). Everything is Texas sized, freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I mention FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMM!!!

It’s just an obnoxious superiority complex that somehow even eclipses the one that Americans in general can have at times. So I would argue that this shouldn’t be too surprising when looking at it through that lens - it’s just a part of the Texas culture. Now, that doesn’t make it okay or any less of a threat, especially after seeing what is going on now at the border, the previous whole “Jade Helm” thing, and the performative politics as a whole that are going on right now. “The federal government can’t tell us what to do! FREEDOMMMMMMM!!!!! We’re special!!!!”

But if this movement is gaining traction, they’re taking inspiration from Abbott’s bad decisions, and other politicians in the state may base their votes on it…then yeah. That’s scary.

Sorry that was so long, hope it helps.

[–] thragtacular@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

"Come and Take It" is a reference to the Battle of Gonzales. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it

There's little chance most people with those stickers know that though. It's the same group that unironically loves their Punisher skull shaped Thin Blue Line stickers.

[–] Wisermob@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

If you're referring to the secessionist bit, basically no one (at least that I know). If you mean the keeping the Texas grid separate from the national grid, probably a fair amount as most conservatives will oppose anything related to the federal government. The best way I can sum up the sentiment is non-dependence rather than independence.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It did not end well for them the last time they tried this.

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