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"We need to shut the border.… The president could take executive action to do it today—doesn’t need more money. It needs action, and this is what’s disappointing to people, and that’s why Mayorkas is gonna pay this public relations price by being impeached for the first time since 1876,” Hill said.
Notably absent from Hill’s explanation was any description of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by Mayorkas. Hill all but admitted that, with the impeachment, Republicans are aiming to make Mayorkas the face of their anti-Biden, anti-immigrant campaign, despite his having not committed impeachable offenses."

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[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 119 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great. He gave away the game. At least 40% of Americans are going to get played. Giving up the game has no consequences. Ask freakin' Christopher Rufo if explaining his unreasonable strategy against critical race theory hurts him in anyway. Ask Steve Bannon. Ask Donald "Aspiring Dictator For A Day" Trump. Ask Steven Miller.

The game was given up a long time ago and we're still playin' it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago (26 children)

Jordan Klepper did a segment on The Daily Show last night (it's on YouTube) where he talked to Trump people and they want a dictator or a king. They come right out and say it.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

And im sure they all still fancy themselves "patriots".

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 22 points 8 months ago

Lol it's doesn't help that Klepper strings them along until they agree with something absurd, but...those folks clearly haven't a democratic bone in their body

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[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 90 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The real "game" here is that they are trying to downplay the seriousness of impeachment. Because their orange clown was impeached twice.

So they'll "impeach" anyone they think they can get away with to score points with their ignorant base and to make it seems less serious.

It's really shitty and un-American.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah I really think this is it. I'm sure it was another directive from Trump to get more impeachments so he can muddy the waters at the rallies. I'm a little surprised they haven't drummed up a Biden impeachment yet so he can prance around with that one too.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's simple and evil enough that it may just work.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

It works like a charm.

Go to a GOP state right now and ask 100 people who Mayorkas is. I will give $100 for every response that is little more than a confused look.

Now go to those same GOP voters in about 24 hours, after they've gotten their daily dose of Fox News and Trump's dollar-store-twitter knock-off. I'll give you another $100 for every response that isn't how suddenly Mayorkas is the root of all evil and the source of all their problems and needs to be impeached because orange man said so.

These people are lemmings who believe the last thing Trump tells them.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

This was done for multiple reasons:

  • Rile up the voting base -- people who 24 hours ago couldn't pronounce the name Mayorkas, let alone know who the hell he was -- and paint him as the GOP's new boogeyman. Make him the face of the anti-immigration movement spearheaded by a MAGA base that hates brown people by default.
  • Attempt to make it look like the GOP is "doing something" about the border
  • De-value impeachment as a check on executive overreach, turning it into just another partisan tool that can be safely ignored by the general public as "no big deal"
  • Take the focus off of Trump and everything he's saying and doing.

“We need to shut the border.… The president could take executive action to do it today—doesn’t need more money. It needs action, and this is what’s disappointing to people, and that’s why Mayorkas is gonna pay this public relations price by being impeached for the first time since 1876,”

So if Biden could have done it through an EO, why not just write up and pass a bill that has everything you'd want the EO to have? Oh, that's right. The Senate just did that and you rejected it out of hand because the orange man told you to. If Trump had blessed the exact same bill, you'd have been standing in front of a pulpit popping the champagne bottle while some old hag screams at random people to shut up. Fucking tool.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They just voted against the border security bill that they supported and wanted, and now they're trying to blame someone else.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yep... Blame shifting, rationalizing unwillingness to take responsibility, strip targets of agency, and cause their base, who are children, to internalize this as immutable truth

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

No, he didn’t “accidentally” say the reason. He just said they’re doing it “for political vandalism and fuck you too“.

They’ve been right out front with their unfiltered racist hateful shit-for-brains garbage for almost a decade now. And yet we still see these headlines like “Oops! RepubliQan Guy Accidentally Says Deeply Offensive Thing” witha bunch of “oooooh those terrible republiQans!” comments. We are stuck. In republican hell.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If Trump doesn't win they're all going to prison. Gang of traitors can go get fucked while they're there.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Not happening, the elite don't send each other to prison. That's why trump, with his massive amount of shit he has done, is still free. You can't put one of their own up.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Makes me want to go too just to fuck with them like the movie Let's Go to Jail

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Because he's from Cuba?

[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There are two jobs of being an elected official. One is getting elected. The other is actually governing. The GOP is failing at the second one.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

Without their creative redistricting and voter suppression policies, they would be failing the first as well

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

And many of them need to cheat in an already broken system to achieve the first one

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 months ago

Hell in a handbasket.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Always wanted to ask but isnt the entire fruit and vegetable market basically run by migrants? Whos gonna do that work? Most definitely wont be trumpers (gopers). So thats going to be interesting.

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the agriculture and service industries would be devastated. Our economy would suffer. Maybe that needs to happen to get it through some people's head?

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Doubt they would see the connection. They will probably blame lgbtq or something

[–] Greatusername11@lemy.lol 2 points 8 months ago

I've heard this on some radio show a while ago. The farm owners know that people will get it no matter what, they don't care. What they care about is how much control they will have over them when they get here. Fear creates complying.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That's easy! We only give 'real americans' food. There will be plenty. /s

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