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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 155 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Steamboat Willy in "Steamboat Willy Recites Racist Quotes from Walt Disney"

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I hope so πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I predict a complete overhaul of our trademark and copyright laws that will accommodate Disney's desires.

You know... Basically what they did last time.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Too late for copyright laws, it's in the public domain and can't go back afaik. Now trademark laws can be interesting.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Oh, they already managed to "fix" copyright retroactively once.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Actually SCOTUS ruled that extending the copyright pulls it out of public domain in Golan v Holder. Congress passed a law that put some literary and musical works back into copyright from the public domain. A case was brought by some educators and musicians that the removal of these works from the public domain infri get on their free speech, but the Court disagreed 6-2.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago

Doing that for Trademark law is why they didn't bother lobbying for longer copyright this time. They could protect their Mouse trademark without relying on Steamboat Willy like they did before.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Quite honestly: nothing. Some folks might deliberately use Steamboat Willie in some content because they can, and Disney will likely try and attack some of those people in court based on trademark law if applicable.

But I don't really see a lot of actual utility in the Steamboat Willie character, outside of Disney itself. Any use of it is ultimately just referring to the "I can do this now" aspect of having just entered public domain, which frankly isn't that interesting.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

use Steamboat Willy in some content because they can

"Fuck you, Disney! Look what I can do now" *makes armpit fart noises*

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ha, I mean, yeah. What other reason would someone want Steamboat Willie?

I legit hope there is one for artistic purposes. I just think the majority will not be for artistic purposes.

[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

If you look what happened with pooh I'm guessing we may see the same thing happen here. There will definitely be testing of the waters on what people can do

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[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I forsee a Trademark problem that many didn't expect, and Disney trying to defend their copyright by saying that they used the same version in a Mickey Mouse cartoon in 2023.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I foresaw the trademark thing and so have many others. But that doesn't restrict as much as the recently-expired copyright does. Mostly the continuing trademark means that one can't use the Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse in a way that misleads people that your own work is by Disney.

About the thing about Disney claiming that because they used Steamboat Willie Mickey in more recent woks they can still claim copyright protections on elements of Mickey Mouse that were a thing in Steamboat Willie, I really don't think copyright works like that.

All that said, Disney has a rabid legal team and lots of experience at lobbying congress. Who knows what they're capable of. It's possible they'd try to pull some major fast one and make copyright and/or trademark work differently than they do today.

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[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In 2013 Walt Disney Animation Studios released a theatrical short called β€œGet a Horse!” which features 1920s era Mickey complete with archival audio of Walt as Mickey (and others who voiced him then) as well as renditions of other classic era Disney characters including Minnie, Pete, Horace, and Oswald. Heck, even the logo for WDAS in that sort is Mickey whistling in Steamboat Willie.

It’s a pretty decent short too, even if you know nothing about Disney. And it played before Frozen in the cinema, 4th highest-grossing animation of all time.

I remember at the time thinking whether they might be doing it to try and protect their rights. I’m no lawyer though.

[–] burliman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn’t they make a Steamboat Willie Lego set in the last few years? That renew it?

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Well the copyright has expired, there's no defending it afaik. People can use it even if Disney is using it afaik.

Trademark is more like logos. It will be interesting to see what they will try to defend under it.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

Help step-steamboat, I'm stuck in the washing machine.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 12 points 10 months ago

Stanley Steamboat Willy

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago

Bathhouse Willy

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[–] kometes@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Monetized rule 34 Mickey stuff.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Massive amounts of rule 34

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Ahh. It was copyright keeping us safe from that.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago

Steamboat Willie's steamboat willy

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of Disney throwing its weight around as people accidentally overstep the bounds of copyright, trademark and other legal stuff like that.

Not saying Disney would be in the right. But Disney is bonkers for this kind of stuff, and they've got ridiculous amounts of money to spend in court.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well the copyright expired, that's why it's now public domain. But the trademark is still there.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's why they worked him into one of their animated intro logos a few years ago.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A trademark (also written trade mark or trade-mark[1]) is a type of intellectual property consisting of a recognizable sign, design, or expression that identifies a product or service from a particular source and distinguishes it from others.[2][3]

I would say an animated intro isn't a trademark, and even then making a movie with that material isn't copying someone's trademark for your trademark. But this could get interesting.

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean they just need to slap a (TM) on every official appearence of Mickey. Hell, they can easily say an abstract representstion of Mickey's ears represent Disney and they wouldn't even be wrong.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

A over hyped shitty horror games.

[–] Kaizodrack@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 10 months ago

Mouse.exe gonna be wild

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

A veritable orgy of uninspired crap taking advantage of the fact that people want to feel subversive but don't actually want to subvert anything or say or do anything interesting, because all of those things are hard.

Basically the same thing as the Pooh-but-not-tigger comics you see posted on here that people pretend are funny.

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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

A lot of lobbying by Disney.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

I love the finger guns

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 10 months ago

John Oliver will lean into it.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

More lobbying?

[–] the_dopamine_fiend@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Smash Bros. DLC

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 11 points 10 months ago

I expect someone to train a video machine learning algo to produce any plot of any cartoon promptable in the featured style.

Then any of the above.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Start VPN

Open inprivate browser

Go to newgrounds

Go to Art

In the top right, turn off Adult filter and turn on other age group filters

Open a few in new tabs

Leave ashamed

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Eh, not that bad. Just a bunch of yiff and oversized tits.

Also you need an account to enable the A button which defeats the purpose of the VPN and incog tab.

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[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 7 points 10 months ago

Steamboat horror story

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I just saw a post with an article saying indie filmmakers already scrambling to make a horror movie like the Pooh one.

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Minimal Tecno music videos

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mickey Mouse starring in Steamboat Willy's Death Boat Race 2000, Electric Boogaloo.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

Steamboat dildies.

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