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After repeated data breaches that no company really seems to give a s--- about my phone is blowing up with literally hundreds of spam calls and texts month. I get and make MAAAAYBE 2 or 3 important calls per month, 180-200 of the rest are literally all spam. Anyone have any suggestions, apps ect that they have found refuge with? I really don't use SMS that much either, mostly it's via signal, discord whats app, ect...

Just to put it out there I run CalyxOS on a Pixel 5a.

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[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Nice to see the reddit attitude making it's way here. OP is downvoting all of the correct answers and the bad advice is getting upvoted.

To everyone reading this. If you don't want spam calls stop answering numbers you don't recognize. You should also go to your carrier and opt in to whatever spam blocking service they offer (should be free).

I would also advise as I did in another comment to keep your real number on GV or similar with decent spam protection/blocking and use a direct number you can burn if needed.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the bad advice is getting upvoted.

But... You are the most upvoted comment... And seems good advice... I'm so confused

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use T-Mobile Spam protection and configured it to send every unknown number directly to voicemail.

For any telemarketing, spam, etc. calls they get directly ignored without being sent to voicemail.

I've been lucky to only have one false positive in 5 years now, cost of doing business.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don't have that level of protection turned on and I get very few calls. Both my work and personal numbers are on GV so if somehow either of my direct lines start getting spam bombed I can burn them and get new ones. Thinking about it, I should maybe be prepared and grab one to park as I've advised so I have a fresh and clean one ready to go.

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[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I pretend to be another call center. Or an IVR.

"Thank you for calling Punkadye Laboratories and Archives. My name is Terry. May I have your GSN number please?"

I don't know what a GSN number is; just something that I made up. Once in a while, I get an actual person, but I insist that I have "their latest GSN or a recent invoice," before I continue. I have "a call center voice," and can reasonably fake gender neutral.

Sometimes I answer, "Thank you for calling Punkadye Laboratories and Archives. Please listen closely, as our menu options recently changed. If you know the number of your party's extension, you may dial it at any time. If this is a billing question, please press 1. If this is technical support, please press 2."

Rarely does the call get past the press one part. Often this cuts the latest wave of calls quickly.

[–] rip_art_bell@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as our menu options recently changed

They've ALWAYS changed... 😭

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is it recent? This is recorded. When you said "recent", did you make a little note take that word out it a month or so?

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[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

so, your mileage may vary but here's what I do:

  • people I want to talk to are in my contacts list
  • I ignore all other incoming calls
  • voicemail is a filter. use it.
[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they don’t leave a voicemail, then it’s either spam or not urgent.

Fuck the people (like my boss) who say β€œYou’re so hard to get hold of”. Send a message or leave a voicemail, you caveman.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Or a debt collector. Fuck those people.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 months ago

I just don't answer unless the number is in my contacts list. If it's important, they will leave a voicemail and I will call back. Spammers almost never leave a voicemail.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Pixel phone user, the built in spam blocker seems very reliable. When something goes through I use the call screening feature.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

This is the reason why I won't consider anything but a Pixel. I've tried other phones a couple of times but ended up replacing them with Pixels for the spam blocking.

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[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being unemployed and looking for work.

I have to answer every call.

Every call is spam. The number of calls I get has increased tenfold.

I'm certain that some of these jobs and recruitment sites aren't actually hiring for anything. They are just collecting and selling my data.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Shit man, I'm in the exact same boat (well, employed, but not even remotely close to being in a financially viable way). I'm so tired of answering the phone, being asked my name, and not knowing if it's going to be one of the hundreds of jobs I've applied for, a debt collector, or a run of the mill spam/scam.

[–] focusforte@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pixel's all screening from Google has pretty much completely solved my spam call issue.

Set it up to screen every single call from anyone who is not in my contacts, And I haven't had to miss any important unexpected calls, or answer any spam calls, in months

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Too bad you aren't running stock Android to get that spam blocking.

[–] Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mine will show "Spam" or "Telemarketer", but there's no way to stop it from ringing trough, outside of blocking each number afterward. I'd like to know who thought that just announcing spam was better than not letting it through.

[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Check your settings, mine doesn't even show me a missed call.

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[–] Vej@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I like answering them and asking if their parents are proud of them.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I added the phone number disconnected sound effect to the beginning of my voicemail outgoing message, set my ringer to silent, and set a personalized ringtone to anyone I actually wanted to speak with. That worked okay to get me off most of the lists. When that wasn't enough to drive all of them away I started answering unknown numbers and fucking with the people on the other end, saying anything to string them along and waste their time with bullshit and lies. That actually worked better than anything else.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

My wife and I used to take care of her grandmother. After a while, this old lady got excited to get a scam call or telemarketer, because she would hand the phone to me and I'd just pick a persona:

  • Confused old man
  • Helplessly stoned young man
  • Lecherous and blustery impolite person

There were others, but those were her favorites.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

I started answering unknown numbers and fucking with the people on the other end, saying anything to string them along and waste their time with bullshit and lies

I had a stoner friend who would drop everything in any given evening to do exactly this, specifically for his own entertainment and derision.

Ah, to be young and with plenty of spare time on hand, those were the days and we didn't even realize it.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I find if you answer their calls and fuck with them for a bit they tend to stop calling

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have Call Screen on my Pixel 6a doing a lot of heavy lifting for me.

I really wish there was a non-Google version of it that everyone could download and use.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I never answer unless I recognize the caller. If it is important they can leave a voice mail.

On the plus side I no longer get the weekly call from the Chinese lady.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I use the app "should I answer" on Google play store. It worked pretty well for my partner who isn't really that smart with that kinda stuff and used to get lots of calls. But it helped her a bit mitigating it.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago
[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not advice.

I hated spam calls. Got them constantly.

I decided to just fuck with them mercilessly. I'd answer almost every time. Even if I had to drop whatever I was doing. My single overriding goal was to keep them on the line as long as possible and then, once discovered, piss them off as much as possible.

I've been doing this for years. No YouTube channel or anything. I didn't record the calls. Just a personal hobby of mine.

If I was at work, I'd try to keep them talking while I ignored them and kept working. If I wasn't busy, I'd interact more.

Initially, it seemed to cause a massive increase in spam calls. Like, it seemed fairly obvious to me that I was getting more calls because I was responding. Since I enjoyed fucking with them, I didn't mind getting them any more.

I always figured I was at least tying up one scammer for as long as possible.

After awhile all my calls were hangups. I'd answer, and then they would immediately disconnect. I know that happens sometimes because the robo caller calls multiple lines at once and drops all but the first one that answers, but it started happening every time for me.

A few months ago I read about some scam call networks getting busted. I wondered if it would have any effect.

Seems like it has. I don't even get one call or week anymore.

[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

yea i answer and string them along for ages. since i am not well, my voice and tiredness always shows through, but im quite lonely so i quite enjoy these long rambling chats. i always try to be helpful and ask them lots of questions, and always say yes to whatever they want. but i never give out bank account numbers etc. but i always say "yes i will contact my lawyer and they will cut you a cheque,. how much do you need? pls, let me help?" etc etc.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

I have a Pixel 5a too and the call screening option is a godsend.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Note: this depends a lot on which governments you pay taxes to (country, state/province, city). With that in mind:

  • Check if there's a "do not call" list where you live - i.e. a gov-enforced list of numbers that you are forbidden to call for advertisement. If there is one, put your number there.
  • Do not answer spam calls at all. Usually it's easy to identify them, but there are some applications for this, like this (it's in F-Droid so likely available for CalyxOS). By simply not answering those calls, your number gets marked as "inactive" by the advertisers/spammers/telemarketers, so the frequency of the calls gets lower over time.
  • Get a new phone number, redirect all legitimate contacts to your new number, and trash away the old one.
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[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

If you ran standard OS, your phone would handle it for you. It's my favourite thing about my pixel.

So I guess my suggestion is to revert back to the standard pixel OS.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you're in the US isn't there that law that allows you to request to be put on the black list? And if anybody ignores this list you can receive damages.

[–] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago

Most of the people calling you are scammers pretending to be political or charity campaigns using sketchy urls each time asking for money so I doubt they care about breaking the law more than they already are

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is entirely the responsibility of your phone provider. They should be blocking those numbers.

Call them, tell them you have a csv with the list of spam numbers for them to block. (CSVs are very easily imported) Tell them if they don't add them to their blocklist you will change phone provider because it is unbearable and you are not receiving a good service.

Phone companies are (often legally) obliged to block illegitimate usage and always have it in their terms and conditions.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ever hear of spoofed caller ID?

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ever hear about a system in place to certify the number is actually coming from the correct party? Not all carriers have signed on but as the top comment here said, it's their responsibility and tmo at the least has some pretty decent spam protection/blocking in place, they also have a number you can forward texts to and they will analyze them and use them to improve their spam filters.

Try being witty elsewhere, here you just look like a fool.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Pick up the phone, say nothing and mute it. Unless you have a good reason to answer it, leave it be. Hang up after 30 seconds of they dont. The more sophisticated spammers will write you off as an automated system.

If it's a human who should reach you, they'll assume it was a bad connection and say hello after 10 seconds or so.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is bad advice. All this does is is flag the number as in service and it will get even more calls.

Aside from the advice I gave in another set of comments, you could and should check with your cell provider and turn on spam blocking if they offer it.

I have a total of 5 numbers across 2 phones, 2 at GV and 1 at textnow. I get very very few spam calls and texts. I very rarely answer the phone for a number I don't recognize, I let it go to vm and then if it's legit and important I'll consider calling them back. I keep my phone on silent and all calls and notifications go through my watch so I am not listening to the phone ring especially when I am working.

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[–] rosymind@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Tried this a couple of times, but they kept calling my junk phone. I got like 7 or 8 calls the day after Thanksgiving. I block the numbers, but the next number will just be one or two digits different

I keep the junk phone for things like shopping clubs, pharmacy reminders, etc. I have a seperate number for people and trusted sources (though I realize that anyone can be compromised. I'll get a fresh number once that happens again)

Anyway, point is- I dont think they're human scammers. At least not the ones calling me

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[–] Trev625@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I kept my phone number from a different state so everyone that calls from that area code can be ignored. I also have AT&T's ActiveArmor app (free) and it blocks most of them. I used to get 2-4 a day but I'm down to 1ish a week now.

Answering vs not answering didn't really ever make a difference for me, but I've heard lots of things like don't answer and they'll think the line isn't real or answer but play the do Do DO sound effect or answer but leave it silent. Not sure if any will help.

[–] SecretPancake@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

I had a similar attack of spam calls for a while. It started the moment I answered one call and continued for months. Simply not answering was not enough. Blocking specific numbers does not help either because they change every time. I then blocked all calls not in my address book for a few weeks and that helped. I could then disable the block again and for a year only got an occasional call here and there but could ignore it based on the area code. Now it finally seems quiet.

I’m on an iPhone. Could not find any other way that would help me block spam calls that is not expensive and/or privacy invasive. So blocking everything is the only option.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Airplane mode or MySudo

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Is there any pattern to the numbers they are coming from? For example, many of the calls i get spoof my area code and first 3 digits so I block those numbers automatically.

I've also used an app called Mr. Number in the past to screen potential spam calls for me.

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