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A recently released Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) document titled “Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide”* links common protest symbols to “terrorism” — another marker in a common theme of conflating militant protest for social justice with deadly terrorist violence within the United States. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Brennan Center have raised warnings about such documents, citing inadequate protections for people’s constitutional rights.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 254 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I refuse to believe those groups are terrorist organizations because the CIA has never armed them.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there were syops to radicalize anti-fascist groups to make them less appealing to the masses.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (10 children)

This is essentially my pet conspiracy theory about Alex Jones. He was a plant by the CIA, to make all conspiracy theorists look absolutely batshit crazy. By having him peddle the extreme theories right alongside the “these are a little too close to reality, and the people are getting dangerously close to figuring it out” theories, they’re able to discredit those accurate theories. Because now they don’t need to attack the individual theory; They can just attack the face of conspiracy theories.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Anti-fascists aren't conspiracy theorists, though, they're just people who oppose fascism.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is funny

I'm now a violent extremist because I am anti-facism.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But are you willing to fight for it? Maybe take up arms, defend your friends and neighbors, or even travel the world to resist fascism wherever it arises?

Labeling antifascism as violent extremism isn’t new, it’s a way that Americans were punished for fighting fascists in other countries before we went to war with them like in Spain.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yet...have yet to arm them you mean...or they have and we won't know for 50 years.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All I know is I'm still waiting on my check

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 150 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So, being pro-democracy means you are a Violent Extremist?

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It does to the people trying to burn that democracy to the ground.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes yes. Authoritarians sometimes refuse to cede without violence. The FBI appears to have taken that position

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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Excuses to label you as a criminal so their overreach is justified.

Talk about double speak, being against fascists and racists means you’re terrorist now, LMAO.

FBI has long since been relabeled as the face of the cia, nsa and are the gen pop wranglers.

Call this shit the fuck out for what it is, an attack against Americans of ALL political backgrounds. This is a unified issue, they might only be banging on your neighbors door but you are next.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yup, it's setting up a legal framework that allows them to designate anyone that ruffles feathers or speaks out as a violent extremist, and haul them off without much recourse (it's worth noting that if you're arrested on terrorism charges, your rights are automatically suspended).

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately, the face-eating leopard party is not generally concerned with their own faces, so long as people-they-hate's faces are being eaten too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Republicans, at CPAC, loud and clear: "We are all domestic terrorists"

The FBI: "But whatabout antifa?"

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (24 children)

Protests are nice to look at, but they paint free targets on everyone who participates. Conservatism/fascism has never been defeated by pacifism.

If you are motivated to resist fascism/conservatism, arm yourself and train appropriately. Take classes, join left-leaning gun clubs, survival groups and prepper classes. Exercise and learn to fight.

Conservatives have been prepping for years for a war they insist is necessary. They have decided you are their enemy. You cannot change that by protesting.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (16 children)

As a liberal gun owner, I agree.

I want a world without mass shootings.

But right now, the majority of mass shootings happen against the most vulnerable people. And the majority of hate crimes is happening because a bunch of fucktards are pushing violent messages. And the worst part is nobody in power really gives a shit.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

Oh no, what will we do if the FBI targets left-wing activists for insane reasons? They might give the J. Edgar Hoover Building a bad name.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

"Eat the Rich" is now a symbol of extremism.....

That is extremely funny and extremely stupid at the same time. Honestly, after both of those conflicting feelings wore off, I am left in a state of confusion.

I mean, I get it. Just because phrases or symbols are used in extremist movements doesn't make the phrase or symbol exclusively extreme, with some exceptions. (Idiots will look at that "guidebook" and just leverage the FBI classification as a means to reinforce a bias, regardless of the context.)

For example, the Gadsden flag is a part of American history. However, it has also been hijacked for different causes. (I sarcastically see it in its original context as people still holding a grudge against the British, TBH.)

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

However, it has also been hijacked for different causes.

Another example is an American flag off the back of a pickup truck, usually a sign that the driver is a bigoted douchebag

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

For example, the Gadsden flag is a part of American history. However, it has also been hijacked

And here are some of my favourite versions to mock those it's now mostly associated with:

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I have nothing against the British, but I have a Gadsden flag sticker on the back of one of my bikes because it says "no step on snek." I dunno, I thought not stepping on the snek was always a pretty wise strategy.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what the sneks want you to think.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Here we go, Big Snek got us again.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Explains why they coddle white Trump terrorists

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

it explains a whole lot.

I mean we shouldn't be surprised, FBI never has had an interest in these so called "civil-rights"

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[–] BassaForte@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

Sounds like something fascists would do.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So they are publicly claiming the agency to be fascist and racist?

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[–] gullible@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only they would finally arrest the president of Antifa, this would be unnecessary. Richard Antifa deserves to be held accountable!

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

TIL I'm a violent extremist.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago

Man I love having to vote for people who label me a violent extremist. 10/10 government right there.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So starwars is now considered terrorism propaganda, ok

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The OKC bomber said nobody cared about the innocent people on the Death Star when Luke Skywalker blew it up, ergo, bombing a federal building is okay.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

There has always been a big disconnect between the USA's fantasies of its values and its actual values.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

And this is why we need to break the current command chain in domestic and foreign intelligence, we never actually banished the ghosts of the Kissinger days, just let them pick less noticeable successors that still hold the same basic world view.

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[–] Marsey_Enjoyer@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Radical Centrism wins again

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Federal Bureau of Covering Your Own Ass

Failure Bureau of Insurrection

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Ladies, Gentlemen, and Enbies, we are domestic terrorists

[–] RileyNorman@midwest.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I just knew all those punk bands were terrorists! Jello Biafra better get a lawyer... \s

[–] proper@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The F stands for Fascist

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