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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stupid iPhones… I want extensions!

[–] xep@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd have bought an iPhone a long time ago if it had Firefox. Unfortunate.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It does have Firefox but it’s a Safari reskin.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s still better than chrome or safari on iOS. It has a built in ad blocker. Honestly, I just want that Reddit extension that automatically replaces www with old.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's like Digg.

[–] nix@merv.news 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s called Sink it for Reddit

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I will try this out. Safari only, but I avoid Reddit as much as I can now.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago

So it's not Firefox

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Because crApple only allows WebKit-based browsers on iOS.

[–] ryo@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago

Firefox focus is pretty good, at least for what I use it for. I just need something I can quickly search with on mobile, the rest is in apps.

[–] 001@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hoping that when sideloading becomes a thing (thanks to the EU) firefox will develop a full iOS version

[–] Xabis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was hopeful too until I found out that Apple is geofencing it to Europe only.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Orion is the next best thing. You can install extensions like uBO and other FF extensions.

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Orion browser by Kagi. Closest we have to a Firefox like browsing experience on the iPhone. 🙏

[–] spiderman@ani.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it chromium based or ff based?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Literally the only option on iOS is WebKit, unless you’re sideloading.

[–] provisional@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Webkit! It's currently only available on MacOS and iOS/iPadOS.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't every browser on iOS webkit?

[–] provisional@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but the browser engine isn't really the main selling point. Kagi is building Orion Browser with zero telemetry, native ad blocking, and support for Firefox and Chrome extensions. It's privacy respecting, fast, and extensible. Support for other platforms are also planned.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you all for explaining!

I will note that it does have its issues, and that you may not want to use it as your daily driver if you’re worried about some website breakage. To me, having most of the little extensions I use on Firefox work correctly makes me like it more. I just don’t recommend going in without warnings of some kind. 🙏

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

If Google is investing in creating a non-WebKit browser for iOS and given all the heat they are getting for Safari and WebKit, we might see this sooner than later.

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/04/google-working-on-browser-that-would-break-rules/

[–] hellequin67@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe also try making Firefox tablet compatible like almost every other browser.

Currently it's just a bloated phone UI on tablet, it's the one thing stopping me from using as my daily browser on mobile devices.

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I installed Firefox (Android version) on a Chromebook to see if I could keep 2 browsers with separate profiles and setups.

The Firefox browser on a Laptop computer looked awful. A narrow phone UI, but stretched really, really wide. It made no attempt at utilizing a wide tablet layout.

[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's weird, this is presented as new, but I had adblock on Firefox on Android from the start.

That and flash support were two of the major reasons for using Firefox on Android in the first place. This was back around 2010, when most porn sites still used flash players for video. Then flash died, that was fine. Then at some point Mozilla reduced the available extensions a lot, but at least some adblocker was still available.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They only allow a handful of curated extensions on mobile. You'll have to use the nightly build and jump through some hoops to install arbitrary extensions on mobile (mostly to allow devs to test their extension). Looks like they'll finally lift the restriction soon.

[–] elphez@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's also worked on beta builds for some time now as well. Which is nice since you only get prompted to update every now and then instead of daily.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They rebuilt the mobile browser, if I'm not mistaken. It's why the extensions stopped for a long time.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 year ago

I would say they didn't finish rebuilding it, for 5 years. They just broke the old browser. Not a cool thing to do honestly.

Android + Firefox & adblock is the only way to browse.

Sometimes I have to open something in Android + chrome.

Why tf can a mobile news site allowed to embed a video ad, a video in the bottom corner, and a sticky banner?!

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I've had ublock origin on Firefox Android for at least a year... And my old Samsung S7 had Firefox with plugins for even longer.

So confused.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Awesome. As a recent convert after Google's acceleration of bullshit this year, I was surprised at the gap between mobile app and browser and frankly had difficulty understanding it. Glad to hear there will be an alignment coming.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Firefox nightly on android supported desktop extensions for quite some time. It wasn't that easy to install them, but once I did they worked fine. Maybe a bit more slugish than on pc, but that's expected given the resources limitations on mobile.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not all extensions though. I want to be able to use the User Agent switcher that I use on desktop and when I add that to the extension collection it causes none of the extensions to appear in Firefox mobile.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand why we can't use about:config in the default version.

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[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I think you can set a custom user agent in about:config, but obviously isn't as conveniant as a quick toggle from an extension.

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mao@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Wtf?? Thanks! Now I wonder what other features are hidden here

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm confused. What the hell am I using on my ff if not extensions? (add ons)

I'm a little confused now.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are only 22 add-ons for the mobile version (2 of which come pre-installed: uBlock and night mode), and they were all hand-picked or made by the devs to be ported. It doesn't have support for the whole system like on desktop, where there are thousands of add-ons with new ones being added every day.

[–] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Desktop Firefox has waaaaay more extension options than mobile currently

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took long enough. What the hell was the holdup?

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

Article says they were paranoid about security issues.

[–] zoontechnicon@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Sadly, some APIs are still not implemented, so extensions interacting with bookmarks for example still won't work...

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

Now if I could only reorder my Firefox bookmarks on my homepage.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

At freaking last!

[–] Nickm8@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] mark@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just Mozilla being Mozilla... Taking forever to get impactful stuff like this released or to fix bugs that have been sitting around for years. Yet quick to add features to the browser most of us don't need.

I like what Mozilla is doing. But they seem to struggle with their priorities.

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