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If someone murdered me, how long would it take (if ever) until they catch the murderer?
(lemmy.dbzer0.com)
Depends, are you a CEO?
this post was submitted on 24 Dec 2024
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I'm the ceo of An Absolute Nobody Inc. but its unrecognized by the government. Not sure if this counts.
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That last by-the-bye got me. I'll bite.
Sounds like you're having a tough time at the moment. There are some good communities here if you're needing a virtual hug bigger than I can give.
Hopefully your throwaway line is just that you've had a fixable row with them and are cooling off somewhere else.
Best wishes this Christmas, one and all.
Sorry to say, but the average investigation looks absolutely nothing like it does on TV. NYC has 9000 unsolved murder cases right now. So the odds are pretty good that they wouldn't even look for your killer.
plus most investigation is filling out a report and filing it away.
Was there a security camera at the murder location?
Yes.
Do we have the footage?
No.
I guess this case is unsolvable. Next!
Generally speaking, there is about a 50% chance that they'll solve it at all.
98% of the murders that are solved will be solved within a year.
Also significant that the vast majority of solved murders are committed by someone you know. The FBI stats have <10% of solved murders being committed by strangers. It's impossible to know what percentage of unsolved murders were committed by strangers, but it's clear the odds are not in your favor if it isn't somebody the police can add to their list just by asking around.
While that conclusion is probably true, I don't think you can conclude that from the data.
You have a better chance of your case not being resolved if someone just straight up shot you in a crowded area before they make a getaway. The bigger the crowd, the chances are higher. Because people will spend more time scattering and getting the fuck away from possibly being shot too.
Unless they are really stupid they are never gonna be caught.
Would depend on how you were murdered.
In the street with many cameras and witnesses, pretty high chance.
In your home with no cameras and no forced entry, very low.
In the street with many cameras and witnesses, pretty high chance.
lets say, hypothetically some rando walks up and caps you, exactly like Luigi did the CEO. it took, probably, millions, or hundreds of thousands of dollars in terms of cop-hours, and a lot of that is straight up overtime. then there's things like draining the pond in central park, or whatever. the divers. the chasing down faulty leads.
and none of that was actually useful.
what got him in the end was the media campaign pushing his face (well. supposedly his face. there's holes in that story.) in front of everyone. And the only reason it had massive media campaign was because Luigi whacked some asshole who was a real prick, even by Health Care CEO standards, and that made it news.
they're actually more likely to figure out the other, because there's going to be a handful of people who have access to your place. Whoever has keys becomes suspect. Or whoever was in the place. at the very least, no forced entry means you knew the person, at least enough to open the door for them. (Pizza guy?) that's more than they had on Luigi until the McDonalds lady called it in.
(Seriously. Unless they have a continuous footage of him, spliced together from one camera to the next, never leaving it, then they matched Luigi's face to a pair of eyebrows on grainy video. Sure they might have DNA or something more now, but those photos were a joke. as they say. "he fit a description". a blurry, pixelated description.)
If he hadn't taken the mask off in the hostel they would still be looking.
No, they wouldnβt.
They would have found somebody else who βfit a description.β
To my knowledge there was no real reason to believe the guy in the second two photos were the shooter.
They didnβt have a solid βhe goes here, here and hereβ timeline on him (or they would have known he went to the bus port much sooner.)
Mayve he wanted to get caught so they wouldn't blame a scapegoat?
Or maybe he is the scapegoat.
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(If Luigi is the perpetrator, maybe he wanted to get caught so his manifesto gets in the news?)
Could even be a copycat using the opportunity to get their manifesto in the news
Okay so what if this scenario: [Hypothetical, I'm not in this situation, yet]
I have an argument at home with family members, and someone got pissed.
They:
[1] kills me while I sleep
or
[2] poisons my food
I mean, I do have diagnosed depression (but never told my therapist/doctors about my suicidal idealization), so could they potentially fake a suicide?
Immediate family (spouses especially) are ALWAYS the primary suspect until they can be ruled out
Becase family is most often at fault. So the easy answer is right. But when it isn't family it is much harder to guess who might have done it.
If they poison your food that's going to show up on toxicology, if they smother you with a pillow they'll probably get away with it
This is sounding oddly specific. OP, please don't kill your family member.
Edit: Actually, I'd like to add something. If you were to suffocate someone with a pillow or poison them, both of them would point to foul play, which would instantly pull in a list of possible suspects. In that list, the ones with motive would be investigated a bit more: ie, had a spat before the death. And from the on, it would be up to match evidence, now that an investigator knows what they're looking for, it won't take long to put 2 and 2 together.
One of my grandfathers was murdered several years before I was born. He ran an off licence (small grocery store), when robbers took money and still used a shotgun to his face at point blank.
I believe it took around 20 years to catch one of them, with the accomplice having passed away from other causes years prior to the capture.
There have been a few attempted murders of friends/neighbours, over the years here, without anything coming of it.
I'm not within any profession to be providing a direct answer to your question, however in my mind I don't believe there would be much effort provided for most people. I say this with some confidence, after seeing how much is provided to the rich in comparison to, well, everyone else... Rather sad realisations, ngl.
Fucking hell mate. Where do you live that's so rough? There's around 600 murders a year in the country I live (UK).
That said I don't think there'd be much effort to investigate here either, the police just default to saying things are a civil matter these days.
This.
Only about one in twenty of recorded 'crime' is ever solved. I don't know whether that includes posting a tweet (aka non-crime hate incident). That's recorded crime (if they'll let you record a crime).
Same view as you: got turned away with that same phrase "civil matter, sir".
I'm guessing that the real figure is maybe 1 in 100 at best. I'm sure I saw a pod cast of that undercover detective (Pete(r) B-something?) who was evicted from the Met who said the figure was in that ball park. Can't find it or remember his name. Bah!
Greater London. When people think of London they usually forget the areas on the outskirts. Just a lot of gang activity. Earlier this year someone got stabbed metres from my living room window, however they survived. All of my friends who have moved away have expressed being considerably happier.
I mean Alabama alone has around 700 murders a year.
Yeah well Cleetus needs to stop knocking up sheriff's wives and mistaking them for his cousins
Hmmm... Are you a pretty, blonde white woman?
Lol, nope
Where said murder happens is a very important detail. Murdered on a roadway without any cameras for kilometers on end? Yeah, better believe nobody will find out the culprit. Murdered while visiting a different country? The chances might increase, but not much.
Who kills you also matters. Was it a cop or some rich asshole? It's likely he'll be found out quick, but will be acquitted for some shit reason or legal loophole.
Prob never, because I'm not that stupid enough to leave evidence
If you aren't important and the perp halfway knows what they're doing - never. A majority of murders are never solved, you'd just become a statistic.
To be clear, "important" in this context is how much companies are affected financially by your death.
You could have a raft of friends and family that would be devastated by your passing, but if none of them have political or financial influence, it would purely depend on how ~~overworked~~ bored the police are and how easy it is to solve the case.
How long is a piece of string? Depends entirely on the specific case. For example, if you're murdered in front of witnesses, the answer will be very different than if you simply disappear mysteriously without anyone finding your body.
Would there be anything about your case to pique the interest of podcasters?
Probably not...
Guess I'll just be a cold case. π
Old people have died in new york city apartments, only to be found several months later because of the smell of the corpse.
I don't know the statistics, but are most murders even solved? And if they are, it's probably because most murders happen when people are angry and do stupid things with zero planning.
Are you trying to be murdered?
Nah, just want to know how important I am.
Like, if I get murdered and became a ghost, and see that my murderer actually getting caught, I'd at least feel like my life had some worth, since somebody actually cared enough to investigate my murder.