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When I was growing up, these seemed to be ubiquitous and I never liked them. They seemed overcomplicated for the purpose, and created a gross and smelly area under the sink that needed more cleaning.

I haven't had one in years, as a simple sink mesh does the same job. But I don't really know how other people are. Are under sink garbage disposals still common, and commonly actually used by people here?

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They shouldn't make a gross smelly area under your sink. It sounds like yours was leaking.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Or had a backflow issue

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

I went out of my way to get one installed in a house that didn't have one. So, yeah.

If yours is making a mess under the sink, it's either broken or installed wrong.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use mine all the time, much easier than dealing with a nasty sink strainer as I just spray down the sink into the disposal and run it. Also keeps the trash from smelling.

If it's being smelly under the sink, it's broken or not installed right. If it's being smelly from the drain hole sink side then you're not cleaning it from time to time (Which is as easy as dropping in some cleaner and running it every other month or so).

I'm actually looking to upgrade mine so it can handle some bones

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

A cup full of ice cubes once a week keeps mine clean

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The upgrade is so worth it. I got a 1hp one when I needed to replace the old one. I could probably send a whole rotisserie chicken down that thing without issue (other than destroying my plumbing anyways). I don't deliberately send bones down it but it has happened and they don't even slow it down.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They were never a thing in Europe.

The sewage treatment is not built to handle that kind of stuff. The sewage pipes aren't too happy about it, either. I might flush some carbs down the toilet. The poop-munching bacteria at the treatment plant get a nice growth boost from it. Grease not only clogs your own pipes, but causes issues for the whole city. I think it's possible to get fined for it if you'd get caught starting a year or two back.

Food waste goes in the trash or compost. If it goes in the trash it's burned at industrial temperatures to burn clean. The heat is used for district heating networks.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

The sewage treatment is not built to handle that kind of stuff.

They're also not built to handle it in the US, but lower standards solve that problem pretty handily

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, grease and oil kills plumbing

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve never not had one, do you scoop all your food waste out of the sink with your hands? Cleaning is as easy as dropping a lemon peel in once in a while or a tray of ice.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Big stuff straight into the trash. Little stuff into the sink strainer. It all settles to the middle of the strainer. Pick up the strainer and dump it into the trash.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Does the debris ever clog the strainer? Sometimes the disposal gets clogged and holds filthy water in the sink, and I just run the disposal and it clears it all out. Otherwise you'd have to reach in and grab the strainer out and that's... Ew.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Didn't grow up with one, but consider it standard now. There should be an organic stream to waste disposal. Much more green to send your plate scrapings to the treatment plant than to wrap them up in plastic and bury it in a landfill.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I use it all the time. Dump dishes into trash, rinse everything that sticks off in sink, grind up all the food bits from that in the disposal, put dishes in dish washer.

It's only gonna get gross and smelly under your sink if something is wrong with the disposal. And if you're not throwing a shit ton of garbage down it, just the little bits that wash off when doing dishes, it's not likely to break or get clogged.

ive never lived in a house or apt without one. they seem ubiquitous to me. seems weird there wouldnt be one.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lol what? They are ubiquitous as ever.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I've always had one in every place I live. Even the shitty apartment I had one was installed.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Food waste goes to compost!

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Never ever lived in a place with one, and I've lived in probably a dozen places in my life

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

We have one, I like it. Never gross smelling, keeps the drains clear, seems to help the dishwasher run better.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Almost impossible to get a condo in my area without one. I do use a mesh but I know from experience I have to run it once a month or it might rust out or something. Washing machine drains to it to.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Washing machine drains to it to.

I hope you mean the dishwasher…

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

Depending on where they are, a washing machine in the kitchen might be a thing. It's very common in the UK, for example.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

There are portable washing machines that hook to a kitchen tap and drain to the sink, had one when renting a place with no laundry on-site and just hung dry everything. So much better than going to a laundromat weekly, and paid for itself too.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 month ago

yeah sorry. dishwasher.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My house had the cheapest garbage disposal which I quickly broke. When I went to replace it, I found that replacing them is incredibly easy and the mid-tier model (about $120) said it could handle small beef bones and peach pits. I've been very happy with that, and all my food waste goes in. I don't have a lot of room for compost, but the city purports to be generating electricity from the sewage, so I hope it isn't wasted. It also means that my trash doesn't smell, which is nice.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Are they easy to self-install? I still have a bit of new owner "shit I'm responsible for everything, better not fuck it up" mentality.

[–] Triteer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, they're pretty easy as long as you already have the outlet under the sink. The hardest part is maneuvering the drain pipe into place. Once you have it in place there's just two or three nuts you need to tighten. If you're really worried about it, you can stick a bucket under it for a couple days it to check for leaks. I'd say it's a pretty good project to get an intro to plumbing. In the worst case if you get in over your head, you can call a plumber to come in and finish it, and they'll get it done within half an hour.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Easy to replace? sure. A couple hours if your handy.

But installing one for the first time will require electrical in addition to the and plumbing work. It's a pretty big job for a DIYer.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

They’re not legal where I live. Something about our sewage lines or treatment center not being able to handle it if I recall correctly. I have a clog resistant drain strainer that I clean out every time I rinse dishes in the sink instead.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

They seem more common now if anything

I’m not sure what extra cleaning you’re talking about but if you use them once in a while they don’t stink

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I found a solid metal strainer, not mesh for my sink. Holds up forever and much easier to clean. Even if you have a disposal, its not great to just dump everything down the drain [citation needed]. You especially want to catch things like small bones and forks.

The disposals seem common enough, a lot older/outdated homes don't have them. I have no idea what they're putting into new houses and renovations.

Never had an under the sink mess like you describe, maybe yours just had a small leak?

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most garbage disposals just cause more trouble that they're worth since they turn small chunks of food into paste and that's more likely to stick to the insides of drains and cause more clogs than the small chunks, as long as your drains are properly maintained. And a halfway decent strainer will keep out the larger pieces. It's also not good for your city drains and makes sewage processing more expensive. Better to use composting for your food scraps if you can.

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[–] Deello@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I worked in apartment maintenance for a bit. That is a requirement for low income housing, at least in California. If it doesn't have one or it stops working for any reason, the tenant can claim unlivable living conditions and not pay rent until it's fixed. This is true for many types of problems but you asked about garbage disposals. Also the property could potentially lose the designation of low income housing which means losing the federal/state subsidy. Most tenants don't know about this and choose to move out instead after a few rent increases. On the other hand there is a list of "problem tenants" that landlords share and if you end up on it then good luck finding a new place to rent.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

I had one in most of the apartments I lived in, but I was always having problems with them and needing to contact the landlord to fix it (some of this was my fault but still). Now that I have my own place I'm not going to install one, I don't want to spend money if the result is mostly to get to maintain yet another thing, just to avoid shaking a drain trap over the trash every once in a while.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

My condo has one. I use it.

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I used to have one, but everything I'd use it for should really be going in the compost, not the sewer.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find they're pretty ubiquitous where I'm from. I had one in every apartment I've lived in. I don't have one in my house though.

I know a lot of people will just dump a lot of food waste in there. After struggling with it, I started just throwing out all of the waste and using the garbage disposal for the small bits of food that would normally get caught in the sink strainer.

Now that I'm back to living in a place with no garbage disposal, I do miss it a little. The sink strainer is a bit gross to handle. But it's also pretty nice not having to maintain the garbage disposal so it all evens out.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What maintenance? I had to fish broken glass out of mine once, but otherwise I’ve never had to mess with it.

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[–] 4z01235@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Never had one, and can't think of ever having seen one.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

As a Canadian, the idea of a garbage disposal in a sink has always been insane to me. It can be hard to believe that Americans just grind up stuff and send it down their sink drain.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago

You're a biological garbage disposal and your shit goes down the same sanitary sewer line. It's just food scraps like peels, stems, and trimmings. Hardly qualifies as 'insane'.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

There are very few things that make me proud to be American, but I do love when people from other countries are horrified by "normal" American stuff.

It is quite convenient, though, and better than food going to a landfill. (although composting is still preferable)

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

What's insane about it? You eat food and your waste goes to the sewer. The garbage disposal does the same just without it passing through you. Also they're only really used for scraps (egg shells, vegetable peels/trimmings, bits from rinsing dishes, etc) it isn't like you're dumping a whole plate of spaghetti down your sink. If you don't have room for composting then the only alternative is throwing that stuff in the trash.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I have never not had one

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

It's definitely not necessary. It can be convenient.

It wouldn't be very high on my list of wants, but I'll use one if available.

My problem was not using the thing for long periods of time and it kinda jamming in place. They have a little quarter-inch hex key hole on the underside that you can use with a hex key to get 'em going again if that comes up.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I share your opinion. When I bought my house, ripping out the garbage disposal and putting in a normal drain was one of the first things I did.

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