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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I would have upgraded to Windows 11, but they decided my processor is "too old", so now I don't use Windows at all.

Same happened to my work computer about 2 years ago. The i5 was "too old". Work tossed the laptop and bought a new one. I asked the IT manager if I could buy the old i5 from them, he just gave it to me, since it was already written off (no HDD, though). It's running Linux now on an SSD, is fully updated, and still runs faster than the i9 on nvme they replaced it with to run win11. Win-win in this scenario, I guess.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 13 points 4 days ago

It’s the best Linux advertisement ever.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My PC is really up to date and yet somehow it fails the Windows 11 'test' you can run. Not sure why but it's pretty nice so I haven't looked into it.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If your PC was bought in the last 5 or so years, it's probably just the TPM being disabled in bios.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Hm that seems like something I'd want even if I don't want Windows 11

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s really crafty and nasty. And it also allows users to go through the process without requiring admin access.

We needed to stay on Windows 10 for a few reasons at work. I had a few users tell me this or that broke and they could no longer use this function. Remoted on and found the computer was somehow updated to Windows 11. Users swore it was not their doing. I know what happened; it’s an update screen that has a decline at the very bottom corner far from the button to allow the update to proceed that most users don’t see so they are being intentionally misled by Microsoft to think they have no choice but to accept the update. And worse is that none of these users were admins. So what the fuck, Microsoft?!

It’s so infuriating and disgusting.

Thankfully we can now move to Windows 11 without issue, but that was a really frustrating time to be an admin and Microsoft deserves every bad thing that comes of users getting upset over this. Hopefully lawsuits to lose some money over it.

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair that seems like a group policy setting that wasn't set.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago

I'm not an admin but don't they keep changing them so that you can't prevent these updates with group policy alone.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My twenty Linux machines just giggled.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

genuine question, why do you have twenty computers

[–] Laser@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Right? It's like they're not even trying. Everyone knows you need at least a hundred machines

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I mean… in a perfect world lol.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I ran an IT company for many years until I became disabled. But I do tons of tinkering selling and supporting still as a hobbyist etc. most of them are laptops. My lab used to have 14 full tower chassis systems but I got rid of all of those once their functionality was not needed anymore after I closed the business. I mean - computers that I use daily is basically like three or four laptops and a few Android phones. A couple of tablets - an iPhone an iPad an Android tablet. Also a few really old vintage devices just for shits n giggles. Two transformer pads also.

I mean… I got started in tech a long time ago. As in the early 1980s.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Ah okay, that makes sense.

[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The girlfriend from the unfaithful guy meme is not liking this.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is why I shut automatic updates off six months ago. Yes, I'm aware of the security risks.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Clearly you aren't or else you would turn on security updates

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile me who used heavily modified Win 10 that i downloaded from shady corner of the web be like : Nahh.... Microsoft doesn't have power to nag me, I'm practically immune to all Microsoft shit

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Us: You guys are getting updates?

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My laptop showed me the "Upgrade now" screen everyday for atleast a year until I accidentally clicked the wrong button and now I'm stuck with win 11 :(

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I believe you have 30 days to roll back?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 4 days ago

Probably for the best

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Well I'd be happy to. It's only Microsoft's silly rules that stop my laptop being upgraded to Win11.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Other than Copilot, what does Windows 11 do worse than 10? I havent tried it yet.

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  • the UI may be noticeably slower on some systems
  • it is more difficult to avoid using a Microsoft account
  • the task bar cannot be moved and customization is more limited
  • some right click menu options are hidden behind an extra click
  • the start menu is different. More like an app drawer than previous versions.
  • some long depreciated features (like ungrouping taskbar items) were removed.

Personally none of that bothers me, but everyone's usage is different.

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, and the worst issue is the hardware support. It requires a newish processor and TPM (or equilivant)

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Come to think of it, I think that's why I never updated.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Keylogging, and literally recording everything you do, then sending all of that information back to Microsoft.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So does Windows 10 and every version of Windows for the last 15 years

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Windows Recall is Windows 11 only. Additionally the keylogging is far more intrusive in 11 than any previous version. User telemetry is not the same as straight-up spyware, which is what Windows has become.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Joke's on them. Comp doesn't support Windows 11.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I still use Windows and Facebook and Xitter. And I'm a dumb jerk with a big butt and my butt smells and i like to smell my own butt.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Windows 10 is end of life in 11 months. Time to get moving.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

That, or if you're like me, I'm just gonna keep my desktop running win10 and just never let it connect to the Internet by disabling or removing the wifi card so it can't auto install 11. Gonna probably be upgrading soon anyways, so no need to worry.