This assumes that Democrats want to win at any cost. Listening to Sanders is a bridge too far.
Democrats would rather lose than do even the most tepid social democratic reformism.
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That's why refusing to vote isn't an effective strategy for changing the democrats. They don't care. Non voters are just murdering trans people to make a point that they won't listen to.
The people who kill are not those who refuse to vote. It's those that vote to kill.
Allowing someone to be killed through deliberate inaction is the same as killing them. You're responsible for the actions you chose not to take.
You've killed thousands if that is true. You could have said something to prevent a suicide, you could have spared a dollar to save a homeless person who froze that night. You are a mass murderer if you really think that. It's a sad way to live.
Are you sure you saw the word "deliberate"?
How are my examples not deliberate?
Drag did say all drag could to prevent a suicide whenever one of drag's friends was down. And it worked, none of drag's friends are dead yet.
So you deliberately only assist those you consider "a friend"?
We really don't need to keep dragging this out. My point is simply that voting for the "lesser evil" is not morally superior to voting for your ideal candidate or protest voting. And fighting for an actually left movement to take power benefits us all.
Drag has helped plenty of acquaintances too, and they were all alive last drag saw them, but many dozens, drag has no way of knowing. The vast majority of people drag has ever met, drag will never see again.
Did you even volunteer for Harris or donate to her campaign? 🙄
No shit.
Thanks, DNC and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. Took an incredible upwelling of enthusiasm, energy, and grassroots engagement, and completely squandered it by nominating Hillary instead.
It still pisses me off. It should be the end of President Sanders’ second term.
They didn't just squander it, they actively crushed it with a vengeance. The DNC would rather lose to trump than allow Bernie's vision for America come to fruition.
It is difficult to get a campaign strategist to understand something when their ~~grift~~ career path depends upon them not understanding it. — Upton Sinclair, probably
Upton is the only other socialist in the USA that I'm aware of who gained mass traction with voters. Much like with Bernie, the DNC did everything in their power to keep him from getting elected. The Democrats and the Republicans actually pooled their resources to keep him out of office and defeat him for the Governor's seat in California. He only lost by 260,000 votes, which I believe makes him the most successful socialist in US history. He was an amazing person, and an excellent writer.
Everyone here should read The Jungle immediately, if they haven't already. Seriously, stop what you're doing and start reading that book. It's one of the most impactful books in US history, and the reason why we had sweeping food reforms and the creation of the FDA. He said of America's response to his book "I aimed for their hearts, and I accidentally hit them in the stomach". He tried to open America's eyes to the grueling conditions faced by immigrant workers, and the extreme wealth disparity in the country, but all the people cared about were the horrors he exposed in our food supply chain.
There were socialist mayors in the USA so they actually won elections, I think that's more succesfull that getting loads of votes.
DNC won't change unless heads roll. They just roll in the fund raising money, getting a president is just a bonus.
DNC won’t change ~~unless heads roll~~
It's serving its purposes, why would it.
"The system is working as intended and must be destroyed."
Yup.
i would vote for bernie in 2028 over newsome.
Love the guy (even if he seeks to save capitalism from itself, not replace it) but he is old.
Up next : did Marx have a point ?
Every single day Marx and Lenin continue to be vindicated. Try as liberals and progressives might, as time passes their analysis only gains more evidence supporting it. That's why I keep an intro to Marxism reading list on hand if people want so I can link it whenever.
I hear that's what historians are saying
I've been saying the same thing for like a decade now, but it's not like the DNC actually cares.
When good ol' Capt. Obvious feels like being a redundant dickcheese: