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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21778444

Summary

Historians suggest Democrats might have fared better against Donald Trump by embracing the economic issues championed by Senator Bernie Sanders, who has long pushed for a focus on “bread-and-butter” concerns for working-class voters.

Despite Kamala Harris’s progressive policies, polls showed Trump was favored on economic issues, particularly among working-class and Hispanic voters.

Historian Leah Wright Rigueur argued that Sanders’ messaging on economic struggles could be key for future Democratic strategies.

Sanders himself criticized the party for “abandoning” the working class, which he said has led to a loss of support across racial lines.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This assumes that Democrats want to win at any cost. Listening to Sanders is a bridge too far.

Democrats would rather lose than do even the most tepid social democratic reformism.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's why refusing to vote isn't an effective strategy for changing the democrats. They don't care. Non voters are just murdering trans people to make a point that they won't listen to.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The people who kill are not those who refuse to vote. It's those that vote to kill.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Allowing someone to be killed through deliberate inaction is the same as killing them. You're responsible for the actions you chose not to take.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You've killed thousands if that is true. You could have said something to prevent a suicide, you could have spared a dollar to save a homeless person who froze that night. You are a mass murderer if you really think that. It's a sad way to live.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you sure you saw the word "deliberate"?

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How are my examples not deliberate?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Drag did say all drag could to prevent a suicide whenever one of drag's friends was down. And it worked, none of drag's friends are dead yet.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you deliberately only assist those you consider "a friend"?

We really don't need to keep dragging this out. My point is simply that voting for the "lesser evil" is not morally superior to voting for your ideal candidate or protest voting. And fighting for an actually left movement to take power benefits us all.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 week ago

Drag has helped plenty of acquaintances too, and they were all alive last drag saw them, but many dozens, drag has no way of knowing. The vast majority of people drag has ever met, drag will never see again.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Did you even volunteer for Harris or donate to her campaign? 🙄