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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 263 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

"Many of them murdered far more than one person," Trump declared. "A murderer, I believe this, it's in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now."

And he will still be normalized as a presidential candidate by this evenings news and by the country on election day.

I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 128 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FYI, I'm not ok with this. Tho' I'm glad he's saying the 'quiet part out loud', so that there can be no question on the importance of voting him and the rest of the GOP down in this election.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would have agreed with you in 2016 but if the last 8 years has shown me anything it's that Trump is normalizing the worst of people. He keeps saying the quiet part out loud till the right is screaming it

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

A relatively small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to keep them in power and make them rich, another small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to be targeted exclusively at people they don't like, and a relatively large subset of people are victims of propaganda and media saturation. Let's put the blame where it belongs.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know if it's a relatively small subset when there's a fair chance he might be elected if people don't go vote, or vote for a third party candidate.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most of the people who vote for him will never be informed about the most appalling and repulsive things he says, because all their news comes filtered through media streams that are designed to prop up the conservative candidate, no matter who, and to discredit the facts that makes that candidate look bad.

But even if everyone who voted for him knew he said these things, they would still be the minority of Americans, because he lost the popular vote in 2016.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

I'm not surprised. That's how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That would be the large subset who are victims of propaganda. I refuse to believe that such a large percentage of the country would actually be as awful as they seem if it wasn't for the propaganda machine doing its thing.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Lol, they buy into the propaganda because it aligns with their beliefs. They aren't victims of blatant racist shit like this.

Victims of the taxes too high propaganda, sure. But not this.

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 10 points 1 month ago

Trump is currently controlling the largest cult outside of religion in the US. His core is going to take a long time to deprogram enough to return to society when he finally stops getting a platform to mobilize them all. Some of them were awful people before Trump, but so many everyday people got pulled into the cult through Fox or Facebook or Twitter and their conditioning keeps them loyal.

I think contrary to at least some cult leaders, Trump has nothing but absolute disgust for his followers, and uses them solely to get him power and to grift so he can afford to keep the machine of hate going.

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[–] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago

NYT tomorrow: “Harris under fire for [placeholder] after controversial Trump radio interview”

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US has always been okay with this. They don't teach this in school. But they should. The United States was one of the biggest inspirations to the Nazis. From the Jim crow south beating, jailing, and suppressing their unternensch. To the fabulously wealthy capitalists practicing eugenics on their untermensch. Literally, the only slight new take the Nazis had. Was the fantasy ayrian precursors.

Hell even lemmy's perpetual good boys. Well if you're talking too ML or tankies. Had a very cozy working relationship with Hitler. Invading Poland. Even when they broke it off. Stalin went on to massacre thousands of ethnically polish citizens within Soviet borders.

None of these groups ever really had any repercussions from this. One of the big reasons the Nazis failed was Japan's attack on Pearl harbor. Which finally tipped things from the American fascists quiet support of Hitler with public calls for isolationism. Turning away boats of Jewish refugees. Combined with the discovery of the death camps. Without those things, the US would have stayed out while continuing to support Hitler. But IBM never faced repercussions for helping Hitler catalog and track Jews on the way to slaughter. DuPont was never held responsible for making and supplying the gas to Hitler to slaughter the Jews. Our fascists simply bid their time. Russia going from authoritarian to fascist authoritarian government today. With our fascist capitalists slowly dismantling our democracy over the last 100 years. Only some fascists lost WWII.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

If they want to look for these "bad genes", all the Republicans have to do is look in a mirror.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The majority of us most certainly are NOT; the sane ones are just underrepresented in our archaic voting system.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 145 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is almost like he is a Nazi.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 61 points 1 month ago

Nazis were big fans of American eugenics advocates.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I do Nazi what you're talking about... Might I interest you in a MyPillow for the low low price of $14.88?

I wish it were \s :,(

[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NYT: "Did Trump say immigrants have 'bad genes'? MOSTLY FALSE. Trump was actually critiquing immigrants' choice in denim jeans."

[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 12 points 1 month ago

He didn't say murder was in the genes, he said your ass looks killer in those jeans!

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[–] Letme@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wow! The year is 2024, and the Republican candidate is running his platform on genetic cleansing. I did not-see this coming, who could have possibly predicted it?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We knew it. We said it. Its plain as day and the news media will ignore it. The pundits will walk it back. The public will defend it. And we will be Christo-fascists.

[–] Letme@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean White Nationalist Christo-fascists?

Pretty much. I'd rather a revolution break out then see this NAZI be president again.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He says this kind of crap literally every day. Didn't he say Harris voters would be in danger like, literally yesterday? It's not "stunning" anyone anymore, we're just supposed to act like people in power actually care that he's a xenophobic, narcissistic fascist. Headlines like this are supposed to comfort us into believing that those with power are actually stunned or upset by what he said. Every day? For eight+ years? Get the fuck out of here.

Won't someone please think of our leaders' pearls.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's better to have it reported than for us all to be normalized to a potential president wholeheartedly adopting fascist language.

It'd be better if a pearl clutcher passed a law or something, but with half of them frothing at the chance to turn on their own constituents...

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's so sad so many will brush this off.

I cant be more ashamed then I am of my fellow country men. I knew shit was wrong growing up. I did my best to stay out of their way but to see it so clearly in their politics I just can't anymore. Americans are a ravenous people. We harbor them. We protect them. That is what we are.

Eugenics getting freely discussed by a presidential candidate. Shame on me. Shame on all of us.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s nice to hear when someone realizes that Trump is not the problem, he’s the symptom incurred by a mental disease that so many people seem to have.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Damn, it sounds like he's implying that we need to get rid of evangelical Christians - the largest crime committing block in America.

(Obviously we shouldn't get rid of any group based on such broad generalizations - he's a fucking asshole).

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't fucking get the right.

"Evolution is evil it says we're monkeys!"

"Genetics means we can have better blood lines!"

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 25 points 1 month ago (13 children)

They don't actually understand any of those things. They just think white skin, blue eyes and blond hair equals Uber mensch and thus the divine right to rule the world. And just like the Nazis, the fact that most of them don't actually conform to the qualifications they dream up is beyond them. That's why you see those pictures of Trump as a muscular Jesus, they are very detached from reality.

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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Weird for a man such as Trump to equate crime with bad genes. How many felonies does he have again? It'd be interesting to see how this guy would have turned out if he was born poor

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Well, his dad was a nazi too, so maybe he thinks it's his genes that made him this way.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In case anyone isn’t getting it he’s calling for racial cleansing.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, I think he's just saying it plainly now.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it’s pretty plain to you and I, but I doubt the folks at your local GOP meeting are going to hear it that way.

I think using the actual words could help.

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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's very funny that eugenicists always look inbred and disgusting

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like the well-bred Hapsburgs!

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[–] SelfProgrammed@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember when the right said comparisons to Hitler were unfair or inaccurate?

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The Orange POS Nazi is copying 1920's, 30's and 40's Germany.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I can’t believe we’ve got a 50% chance that this racist motherfucker is going to be the next president.

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Is history repeating itself this blatantly? And the people who are voting for him still believe they are morally correct.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Well yeah of course he’s going to bring out the eugenics, he surrounds himself with his fellow Nazis.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok but who's actually stunned by him

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