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All she has to do is say she'll show up to talk to the American people even if Trump doesn't feel it's important or if he can't handle a debate.
Maybe even say it's understandable given his age and general health threat he can't handle it again.
And trump will 100% show up and make an even bigger ass of himself.
It's against instinct, but that's how you fuck with people like trump
Man oh man, do I hope the Harris campaign embraces this trolling-the-troll tactic, and that it makes an impact with enough of the bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe dumb-as-a-rock crowd.
I wish it mattered. I wish facts and functional debate mattered more than racism, bigotry, and fear of others. People who vote for him do so not because of his ability in discourse.
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FUCK YOUR FEELINGS Commie! But Kamala Harris hurt my feelings so she's BAD and I'm NOT Voting for her!
I wish politics didn't get reduced to "he/she was good on the teevee" level or below that.
In 2016, I remember Hillary being perfectly rational and clear during the debates. Yet I also remember reaction photos from across the country, people not even listening to the words being spoken, just squirming at the sight of Clinton, poisoned by decades of negative propaganda against her, utterly oblivious just how viscerally they had been manipulated by right-wing media's hatred towards "this... this... uppity librul woman".
They didn't listen to a single goddamned word being spoken by anyone. They might as well been watching a silent .gif as far as they were concerned. Such informed voters, so savvy! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe!
And Harris seems to know how dimwitted those viewers are, hence the vibe check campaign. You don't need to comprehend words to see Trump squirm and her laughing it off. I hope that plan works!
More specifically: he is furious that he was humiliated by a woman.
Because humiliating women is part of his imminent being, thus his status quo has been challenged, and he fuckin' hates that someone beneath him doesn't "know their place."
Hope she wins.
Her handshake in the beginning devastated him
There was some windbag that was talking about winning handshakes years ago, this mindset definitely extends to that.
She established control with the forced handshake and introducing herself. Which I don't think she planned, but she saw the opportunity and jumped all over it. I almost expected him to turn away and run off, it rattled him.
I believe that was 100% planned, she knew perfectly well going in he wouldn't meet her in the middle and instead asserted the situation. He didn't shake hands with Clinton or Biden - I thought it was a great way to show him she's different.
I mean at this point he probably has a phobia of adept legal professionals. She probably gave him the Prosecution stare and he damn near wet himself.
I didn't even think of this angle.
He's been in so many courtrooms as of late, that he can SMELL the judicial system on her and panicked.
She should take the opportunity to debate an empty podium. (Mostly kidding, because when Eastwood "debated" an empty chair, he just seemed senile and silly.)
But I do think the country needs to see Tim Walz give a good schooling to JD Vance.
Trump wasn't going to say anything coherent anyway. Just stick Alec Baldwin up there and have him read AI generated nonsense.
I think the country seeing more of those two would really sway votes the way I'd prefer. So I'm biased.
But gov Walz represents as very genuine and honest and caring, and the more we can see some of that on our TVs the more we can believe that a most-good-soonest kind of administration is an option.
Look. They could lose. Or Harris and Walz could be faking, even if I don't think so (or want to think so). Or gopnik fearmongering could be right and they could only be barely better than a Dump/Chance ticket.
Just give us this. We haven't had positivity and hope since prez Obama and the hope of Change[TM].
Now, as I haven't suggested everyone boycott for one particular single issue or another, I expect downvotes right to hell. So be it.
Hopefully this is the election that ends Trump's political career once and for all. Guy just needs to fuck off for good.
He needs to fuck off to jail as an example is what he needs to do.
The interviews with independents worry me. The Times was saying they complained about not getting enough specifics from Harris.
Which is infurating being how handwavy Trump's whole platform is. For example, I have no idea how he intends to get sub $2 gas being the last time it happened the price of crude was literally negative.
Some independent voters are just Republicans that are ashamed to admit it. You are not persuading them.
For movable independents, Harris spoke of infinitely more policy specifics because Trump had zippo the entire night.
Is this actually confined? I don't want to take what comes out of the shitter as truth
Edit: YUP
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/11/media/will-trump-and-harris-debate-again-abc-moderators/index.html
FUCKING ROASTED
Conventional knowledge is that it's in Harris's advantage to not give him another chance, even though she'd probably trounce him. He's mostly just afraid of her after being bullied back effectively for the first time on stage.
I cried laughing when he took the rally size bait. It's a shame we won't get more of that, lol
Remember that time Trump did so horribly in the debate then wandered out into the press room after to make sure everybody thought he did well?
He always was afraid of her. He's afraid of any woman who isn't an Eastern Block prostitute/handler.
Not that I don't believe this - Snell is a laywer and commentator seen on MSNBC and NPR - but I would like to see more than a screenshot of a tweet about it.
Not OP, but
Former President Trump told "Fox and Friends" Wednesday morning that he is "less inclined" to participate in another debate against Vice President Kamala Harris before the election
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/11/trump-harris-second-debate-2024
Time to start calling in to any news outlet at the same time that Trump's on the air to debate him over the phone.
Then create social media bots to reply to each of Trump's posts with "Why is this weird old guy too scared to debate me?"
Bully him out of his own safe spaces and see what happens when he has nowhere to hide.
Worth noting, that the person who feels like they won the debate won't want more because it can only hurt them. He probably thinks he won.
Well we still have the VP debate to look forward to.
Oh man I am looking forward to JD Vance asking everyone how long they've been working there.
Trump can read a room and change his positions accordingly; he knows banning abortion is unpopular, so he frames it as "Well actually I'm why all those states had referendum's protecting women's healthcare", which is is true, in the same way Rosa Park's bus driver played a role in the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
JD Vance does not have such instincts.
He was scared of her already. When they entered the stage he was intimidated. Go wash somebody reviewing body language and they'll show you bit by bit just how bad it was. The part where he refused to even look at her no matter what his circumstances? Yeah he was terrified and no idea of how to process it.
Awww maybe a diaper change would make him feel better?
Ok, you know what Harris should do instead then? Do a live AMA on fox with real viewer questions. Seeing those numbers Trump wouldn't be able to restrain himself from demanding another debate. And this time it'll start with an announcer going "round two, fight!" and not end before "finish him!"
She has nothing to gain from that. Why would she open herself to possibly critical questions she cannot prepare for?
... and the moderators fact-checked his shit.
Honestly, Kamala didn't have to say anything. It was all "trump v trump" for a little while there which was worth seeing and has been the crown jewel of very debate digest. All that needed to happen was for moderators to call bullshit on his hyperbole and fabrication in real time.
"You play too rough, I'm going home!"