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[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 132 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

For the 40,000th time in eight years - Yes.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Always was.

They don’t talk about his rapiness enough either.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] dudinax@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago

Or his espionage

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Ugh, when your warts have warts...

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Seems like a problem springing from the press's bias towards neutrality, or how sometimes a politician is objectively wrong but the press treats them with kid gloves for fear of being accused of unfairness.

They can't print Trump's entire 3 minute rant, and they're scared to characterize it as meandering or incoherent, even if that's the best description. So, they print a single line from his rant and provide their own context.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Towards the appearance of neutrality, you mean. When person A says "2+2=4" and person B says "2+2=5", "neutrality" is not reporting some kind of false compromise at 4 1/2, but instead factually reporting that person A is correct and person B is wrong!

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

2+2 is actually 5 I've read it in a book with a bunch of numbers as a title. its basic knowledge, just like: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Stop oppressing me with your woke math and shit! It's my deeply held belief that two plus two equals five!

[–] Googlyman64@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

We jest about bad math being called heritage, but remember that, sadly, 3/5 = 1 was unironically a huge part of their heritage.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For large values of 2 it can even approach 6.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're very good at conservative math.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Heh well conservatives are irrational, but then again. Sometimes numbers are too. But 2.999999999999 + 2.9999999999 is pretty darn close to 3.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like the media would roll this out in the most bad-faith and then evolve it in the most malignant way possible:

  • Both candidates discuss 2+2
  • Person B passionately argues values on 2+2
  • Is person A too ingrained in the establishment to consider new ideas on 2+2?
  • Person B campaign staff says person B will likely "soften tone on 2+2" after they win election
  • Person B supporters wear "5" to latest rally
  • Experts weigh in on the true meaning of 4 1/2
  • Person B says "4 is low-energy just like person A"
  • Should a 4-believer really be president just because person B is a rapist and a felon?
  • Person B won the election and it's all your fault
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They write completely content-less headlines and articles that are so "neutral" they look like they were written by an extraterrestrial attorney.

Guy A shoots guy B with a gun and they write it up as "spectators allege that the bullet that happened to strike B may likely have originated from the barrel of a gun that A has been said to have held in or around the same period where B happened to be struck".

I took journalism in high school and the instruction at the time was not to use the fucking passive voice...but that's all the motherfuckers use...even when covering extremely high stakes shit.

Didn't you know? According to Republicans, "Reality has a liberal bias."

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Agreed. Their motivation is money, and there’s more money in keeping the election a neck & neck horse race, even if one of the horses is rabid, lame, and in every way unfit to run. They’ll downplay his blaring faults, and magnify any tiny fault they can find in his competition, just to keep the race “fair” - for ad revenue.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They also don't like to get sued, and Orange Julius has a habit of suing anybody who offends him.

[–] Fern@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too true, also what we call civility politics. I wouldn't be surprised if corporate backers prefer it that way.

[–] bec@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

I’m relieved to learn this is a term. I see so many appeals to civility and decorum, and it turns into giving the Supreme Court away.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 1 week ago

Yes. By printing a translation of his rambling, rather than the direct insane rambling, his muddled thoughts appear as if there is clarity.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, they’re begging the devil himself to come tear shit up again because if it bleeds, it leads. They’re professionally negligent, venal narcissists who will say anything for money.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Plus, they work for oligarchs who want Trump to win because they want to reinstate feudalism.

[–] bec@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 week ago

Does the press think there will be some protective force field for them if they succeed in setting America alight?

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

that term is hilarious, surprised never seen it before, because this situation started long ago

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

The article talks about how the term has only really started to take off in a big way in the last week or so. (Though the term itself is a fair amount older)

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

If the press is giving me the "sanewashed" version, they're genuinely wasting their time, because motherfuckwr still seems batshit crazy.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

It's absolute malpractice to interpret his incoherent ramblings and turn it into something you writer thinks he might have meant. This guy's lies and lies.. and later on he can say "I never said that" and he would be right.

The correct reporting on his childcare response would have been: when trump was asked about what specific policies he would further to improve childcare in the US, he rambled incoherently for 4 minutes, about all the money they where going to bring in from other countries via an import tax. The only thing touching on the question was "childcare you have to have it in this country".

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More like sucking on his tiny mushroom cock nonstop. See, the media LOVES Trump. For most of them, it’s not because of ideology. It’s because he’s a headline buffet. There will always be more, it will always be more salacious, there is no bottom. Which is great for selling ads attached to what they write, film, and so on.

Biden? Boring. Harris? Booring. But Trump? Trump will always be a lalapalooza of insanity. And to the current celebrity media, that’s all that counts.

Sad thing is they’re gonna get us all killed with that shit.

[–] bec@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

I understand there will be no consequences for the media kings, but I wonder about the levels below. They can’t all be in a position to skip out on what they are flirting with on behalf of America.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Of course. The media has done nothing but carry water for Trump for nearly a decade now.

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