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And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.

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[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 2 months ago (19 children)

If the discussion is good, what is the problem? Genuine question.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 82 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Lemmy.ml is run by people who spread authoritarian propaganda, most likely the CCP. It's a real stain on Lemmy and people shouldn't support or legitimize it in any way.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Those same people are also the lead developers of lemmy.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

It's not a good discussion when they ban you in the middle of it for saying NATO is a defensive alliance.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because the discussion isn’t good, the instance admins themselves go from thread to thread removing anything that doesn’t agree with their chosen narrative of the week(subject to change according to the latest ccp talking points)

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 108 points 2 months ago (17 children)

I see this as an absolute win! The point of decentralized social media is that discussion happens across many different linked sites. It doesn't work if lemmy.world is the only big site out there.

Sure have your beef with the admins of another server, but why get upset that discussions are happening there?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (11 children)

It’s only really a problem when comments get removed or people get banned because they have opposing views.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Bans are fine IMO, I don't want tankie shit clogging up my feed. I should be able to block those views and the admin should be allowed to block them from participating if they so choose.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Its about tankies banning non tankies.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s important that one group of people should not be able to monopolize the discussion. I believe it’s important to the long-term health of the fediverse even if I don’t agree with some of those groups.

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[–] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Normalise criticizing both the West and China/Russia for their shit.

Don't make it your identity to defend horrible shit, anywhere.

Past or Present

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This, but unironically is ml experience

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (6 children)

lemmy.world users when lemmy.ml user don't immediately suck up to political propaganda

There's a reason why having both world news communities from both instances is a good thing. You'll receive a much wider range of sources and bias, as well as the perspective of people who don't completely agree with you.

Staying within on instance community creates an echo chamber like reddit. There's even such a wild difference within lemmy.world between c/Politics and c/News, despite them often posting similar news and info.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

You'll receive a much wider range of sources and bias, as well as the perspective of people who don't completely agree with you.

That's why I often interact with Truth Social /s

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

normally i would be inclined to agree with you, but when we're talking about people who "believe" that the left is more of a fascist threat than the political right in the US, i don't think that should be a valid held opinion currently.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

The biggest differences seems to be .ml Russia and China are never wrong and Israel drinks the blood of Palestinian children. On .world Israel is just bad, and China and Russia have problems.

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[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely have no idea what this is. I just came here for the cat memes. There are very few cat memes here.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 25 points 2 months ago

Be the change you want to see in the world!

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (18 children)

I haven't found Lemmy.ml to be all that objectionable. It's not like they are hexbear.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Try criticizing China's government on one of their posts.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You don't even have to. Most the time they'll take whatever innocent topic/comment at had and somehow twist it into Russia/China Good, America/West bad.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

They're not as bad as Hexbear, sure, but they're constantly turning everything into a political discussion.

After spending a bit of time on communities based on their instance, you just get so sick of hearing about it.

Hexbear are vile, ML are just annoying.

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've seen one of their users say it's ok for middle eastern countries to oppress LGBTQ people in an LGBTQ community. Haven't seen much else from there because that's when I decided the ml instances were more trouble than their worth and blocked them.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago (13 children)

No they are tankies. I got banned from the comics sub for criticizing a comic that gave a, to put it nicely, very one sided perspective on communism.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve had comments deleted that ran against the grain at .ml, even when they were adequately sourced. I don’t think the instance is necessarily objectionable, but the mods will object to things they don’t want to hear.

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since blocking .ml, I've not accidentally contributed to things there. As a result, I haven't had any hate in my inbox since. Just nice, respectful interactions and discussions.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Ooooh I'm about to stuff that inbox FULL of hate!

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your mistake is not having lemmy.ml blocked

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[–] Damage 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I’m subbed to a handful of communities in .ml and it’s not that bad. I consider myself communist, but not of the tankie flavor. Authoritarianism is never a good thing.

If people don’t like those views, they shouldn’t wade in unless they’re willing to have a grounded conversation and not just drop a played out one-liner. I think the most recent uptick in complaints about .ml are because of how often it criticizes liberalism.

Lemmy instances are essentially forums. If I go to a conservative community and tell them all that Marx was right all along, I’m not gonna be surprised when I get banned. Complaining about mods is a tale as old as time itself.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They literally censor comments even in non political Communities.

Lemmy.ml is just a Propaganda-Machine.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah lets ban discussion too eh.

That's how I see .ml because you have to be in the cult and not question anything or get banned.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (11 children)

What's a better way to make our little community bigger and better that having pesky antagonisms over every little difference we can find.

We better centralize over a single instance of people thinking exactly like we do.

Big /S by the way.

And I'm not even from .ml but come'on, we share more than we disagree on.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

The .ml instance has deliberately overt bias and will literally ban you for not agreeing with their interpretation of Marxist-Leninist communism.

Bad faith “conversation” is their thing.

Many of their communities are becoming “the Donald” type situations.

You choose to socialize and mingle with who you want

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.

Is it? It looks pretty stable to me. Conversely, world, lemm.ee and shitjustworks are all experiencing slight but noticeable growth.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy could really do with the ability to transfer an account to a new instance. The only reason I'm still on lemmy.world is because I can't be bothered to set up an account on another instance that may be as insufferable.

As for communities, Lemmy just isn't large enough to be picky. World is the biggest instance, but is still dead on anything that's not either a Reddit clone or a popular community.

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