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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Considering they had no platform at all in 2020, that’s not particularly surprising.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think they are quite content to do absolutely nothing about our most pressing social and environmental issues. I struggle to remember the last time I heard an actual attempt at a solving a real problem. Mostly, I hear rhetoric and personal takes.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago

But they got that one (1) transgender child out of school sports!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Of course they don't.

The second they do, their base might start realizing that they're fucked, that their children might die young due to the effects of climate change, and that its all caused by the very people they voted for.

Tar and feathers would be the least of their worries, they would be shredded toes first.

So better not mention it, with the added benefit that you can keep pushing laws that get you even more monies

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Of course it doesn't. The GOP plan regarding the climate is "Ignore it and the problem that doesn't exist in the first place will go away." This plan is deeply unpopular with anyone who sees climate change as a problem, and for those who don't simply not mentioning it at all is in keeping with their values anyway. "Ignore it."

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

It's worse than that.

The GOP plan on climate is "We'll capitalism out way out of it."

Record high temperatures? Sell AC units and increase prices on electricity.

Water getting more scarce? Buy inefficient desalinators that run on diesel.

Property values declining due to increasing ocean levels? Ban ocean levels.

[–] Alue42@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Here's a taste of the GOP view:

I used to be a government employee in the state of Florida (when Rick Scott was governor) as an environmental educator. One day, we received a memo that for all government employees the phrases "climate change", "global warming", and "sustainability" were now banned from our official duties. How was I supposed to teach about the environment in Florida without using those? I was still allowed to say "unusual weather event".

I left this role, and Florida, and heard that this policy had been repealed.

Wouldn't you know it, I heard from some of my colleagues still there that DeSantis just went ahead and did the same thing, while also making sure the new law impacts the energy grid.

So not only is their plan to ignore it - but they want to force no one else to talk about it either, or make any improvements on their own of their own volition.

[–] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

By the time the earth becomes unlivable, all the rich people will just build planet survival bases underground or escape to the stars while 99.9999% of the population dies a slow death. The billionaires are obsessed with space for a reason.

[–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

"The hottest year on record".
This is becoming a joke, right?
Practically every year is the hottest on record now. It's kind of lost significance, when it's generally a good bet next year will be hotter.

  • 2010
  • 2014
  • 2015 / 2022
  • 2016
  • 2017
  • 2018 / 2021
  • 2019
  • 2020
  • 2023
  • 2024 (so far)
  • 2025 (probably)

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is in fact the point.

[–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 2 days ago

Is it?
Because "hottest year on record" doesn't indicate that at all.

[–] cerement 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

there’s also the nice, easy to understand visual of the warming stripes

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 2 days ago

That's awesome!

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Constant headlines about "the hottest ever" are getting stale. Takes the meaning out hearing it over and over and over.

Sounds like mom, "it's the hottest/coldest day of the summer/winter!" Yeah mom, it's the hottest or coldest day many, many times a year.

I'm also tired of, "smashed records!", when it was 1 or 2 degrees over the record.

Don't know how else to report it, but people are letting these headlines go in one ear and out the other. There's no real impact to the reader.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It makes sense to say "the hottest year on record" if "practically every year is the hottest on record now" and you're talking about the most recent year.

[–] Steve@communick.news 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Does it make more or less sense than "Another year of record breaking heat"?

"Hottest year on record" is like a child stopping on each step of a staircase saying, "I've never been this high!" It's correct, but doesn't mean much in context, and gets old real quick.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

"If I take one more step, this'll be the farthest from home I've ever been."

Though unlike the hypothetical child or Samwise Gamgee, what we're doing is going to create suffering for very large numbers of people. It's probably also a reliable source of clicks for online media organizations.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Everything I come across says that 2023 was the hottest year on record so far, but I don’t know the source of this info and I’ve never seen the list you provided.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Yeah the person above you had a slightly old list. 2023 smashed all previous records and was number one. Well until 2024 it was number one I guess.

https://www.noaa.gov/news/2023-was-worlds-warmest-year-on-record-by-far

[–] Quill7513 8 points 2 days ago

At this point, if I understand the data correctly, the planet would need to get dangerously cold for the remainder of the year to not go down as the hottest year on record

[–] Steve@communick.news 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I edited the list trying to make it more clear.

The point is, most years since 2014 have been "The hottest year on record." It's kind of lost significance as as an outlier, when it's generally a good bet next year will be hotter.

[–] petrescatraian@mstdn.ro 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@Steve It does sound geeky, but yes, it is technically correct to say about a year that is the hottest year on record.

And the fact you pointed that every single year becomes the hottest year on record makes it even more dangerous and shows that we need to take proper measures.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. We're on the same page.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it would be good to word it more precisely. Hearing the same phrase every year doesn’t have the impact they think it does. I’m kinda curious as to what would sound better 🤔

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This dingus leaves off the source of his list AND the last two years

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Infinitely so. I thought you were making literally the opposite point before the edit 🤣

You’re not a dingus.