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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 280 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I like being able to check how busy a place is, but not like this. Simple head count or an average wait time is good. Using web cams is creepy overkill. Typical tech bro invasive shit.

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 76 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Google Maps already provides this, and it's pretty handy.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I believe they do this the same way they do traffic jams, by seeing how many android phones are at the location vs. average.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

iPhones will report it too if they have Maps open.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

/stares in smart glasses

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 111 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Silicon Valley once again solving a problem nobody actually has.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

I don’t know about nobody. Did you see what “one horny user” wrote?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Inverted alcoholics have this problem.......I guess........

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

You have to drink a lot to become inverted.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Where's my husband? - desperate housewives of silicon valley

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Finding a place that's not too crowded and nice for you is a problem I've often had with people.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So San Francisco just invented the webcam? (Btw, Google Maps already shows how busy establishments are.)

[–] howlingecko@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Doesn’t Google Maps show trends instead of live numbers?

Edit: I used “numbers” because I wasn’t sure how to end my question. Stats? Values?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It has both.

It also doesn't have numbers, it has unlabeled columns.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

"Busy", "More busy than usual",... Not absolute numbers.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Depends on the area (maybe), but I think it can do either.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They could very easily just implement some rudimentary person identification algos and output only a headcount.

Pretty sure you can do that with OpenCV.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I think Google does this with your phone. I can see how busy various places are by looking them up on Google maps. Really useful for my local Costco.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

So when is your Costco not busy? Genuine question as I have gone there mid-day during the week and it will still be packed. One day I went 30 min before close and the parking lot was still full.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

There's busy and there's "checkout lines literally to the back of the store"

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you're correct, but wouldn't this only work if you are running either android, or google maps, and have location on?

Its accurate enough but still an estimate, is the point i am getting at.

Conceivably a webcam + opencv headcount would be more precise, if the cameras covered the whole space and could account for viewing the same person from a different angle.

Its like how google can give you an estimate of bus times, but if there is a local city app that specifically interfaces directly with the actually city busses, it'll be more accurate.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your example with the buses is wrong. There is a standard called GTFS and public transport companies publish their fleet status and timetable according to this standard, Google just reads and displays this data. Nowadays you should see the same data in the official apps and gmaps. There are even foss solutions displaying the same thing like transportr.app

You can browse this data worldwide on https://www.transit.land

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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have this capability with my home assistant/frigate setup. Literally have a camera pointed at my back patio right now that says "Cats: 2" Cause my cats are sleeping on the couch out there.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

pretty sure they could just pull the number of open tabs

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago

“Just go to a fucking bar,” she added, seeming to balk at the purpose of the app. “And if it’s not cool you go to another bar.”

I'd rather not. A way to find a nice bar without having to visit several would be nice, not sure having it all live streamed online is the solution

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know of a few bars that have/used to have web streams of the bar. Most of them started in the 90s and 00s and I can’t remember if they shut them off after a certain hour or not. Buddy of mine in Florida would go to one of these locations have a cocktail in front of the camera and wave at us while we would freezing our asses off in the northern Midwest

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Bar Code was one. Cameras streaming patrons in other franchises in other cities so you could kinda interact with them.

[–] Teal@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not one to praise Google often but I think their Popular Times feature can be handy to see how busy a place might be. This live feed video stuff is way over the top and invasive.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Same thing I thought at first. "Oh, so like that one feature from Google Maps" Nope, just some shitty tech bro tech.

[–] podperson@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Easy choice now of which bars to avoid. Hopefully they lose business over it but I doubt it.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As the article indicates, it’s catering to the crowd that wants a packed bar fully of people infatuated with whatever is trending in pop culture.

Lemmy’s user base of bean loving software engineers is not that crowd.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Beans do be pretty good though.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 4 months ago

I mean I do like beans, but it's not love. It's a mutual feeling of appreciation. I think.

[–] techt@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It’s your one year anniversary. Happy bean day.

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[–] LdyMeow@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I would walk right back out of the bar if I saw they had this.

[–] LdyMeow@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 months ago

Good news, looks like they have an app that you can check and see which bars to avoid! Hahaha

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

This app got me laid,” says one five-star review on the Apple App Store. “Best way to buy tickets for events. 2nite is the truth and the future,” the horny user wrote.

This author knows what’s up. Most glorious ending to a news article I seen in a while.

[–] lets_get_off_lemmy@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

This is such a drunk, stupid tech bro idea.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Everytime I see a Gizmodo link I get Gen-X vertigo and feel like Robin Williams in the Jumanji meme.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I remember walking into bars and even paying the entry fee just to walk right back out 2 minutes later and waste my time going to the next one. Sometimes, it would happen multiple times in a row. It never made the experience better.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A weird new app lets San Francisco residents monitor local bars via live video feed to see what’s happening there and to check how busy the venues are.

2Nite, which launched earlier this year, uses a network of cameras at various Bay Area establishments to provide remote insights into what’s happening at those locations.

In fact, some local bar patrons have predictably been a bit perturbed (creeped out, even) by an app that remotely monitors them and streams their drunken revelry to an unknown amount of strangers on the internet.

“You should be able to let loose in a bar where Big Brother isn’t watching you,” a young woman told the Standard when asked about the app.

Lucas Harris, the co-founder of 2Nite, has said that businesses that partner with the app are in control of the cameras and that the feeds are mainly meant to “offer a glimpse of live shows at bars, clubs, and other event venues,” the Standard writes.

Harris and his co-founder, Francesco Bini, also told the outlet they had introduced live stream blurring to anonymize the feeds and keep individual partygoers from being identified.


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[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 5 points 4 months ago

If you wanted to see how busy they are, you could just use a rating from 1-5. From what I understand they will be using cameras and streaming that. I don't really see the value of that.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I mean the camera is already there I guess the issue is it being publicly available and people being creeps.

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