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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I feel really bad for that one guy who thought it was cool as a concept, put in a downpayment, waited for years, got the financing together while watching Elmo’s mask melting off the whole time and just thinking “I just want the truck, and then I’ll never buy another tesla again”. They get constant price increases and make them all just to see it through, and then . . . They get it. And it’s - well, what it is. And they’re totally screwed and besmirched. That one hypothetical guy I feel bad for.

The rest of them, /Nelson

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You should always preorder games and cars, really any tech

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago
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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Tesla just issued a recall for over 11,000 Cybertrucks over a windshield wiper issue. The recall includes all model year 2024 Cybertruck vehicles manufactured from Nov. 13, 2023, to June 6, 2024, which is pretty much all of them given that the Cybertruck deliveries started in Nov. 2023.

Elon earning that BILLIONS of dollars. 💁🏽 Sir, I salute you. The largest grift ever. I don't feel bad for a single person that lost money.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The largest grift ever

All of his work has been grifts from the OG X to PayPal and beyond. He just seemed enigmatic or inspired to some people for a time, enough that kool-aid was drunk. (South Africans do have a way of mesmerizing people though, must be the accent.)

That some good technology happened to pop out of it along the way had less to do with him, and more the engineers tasked with making it happen.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This motherfucker failed up while getting jacked off for a horse.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

jacked off for horse

I know what these words mean individually..

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dyslexic with a non autocorrect keyboard. You want to still a wheelchair next?

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I fucking love you!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I don't know about South Africans, but he definitely mesmerized Peter Thiel, who has spent years crushing on him. And I am convinced it's not a platonic crush, or at least didn't start out that way.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Folks are mesmerized by South Africans? Whenever I here one I just here the Anglo-sphere equivalent of the middle of nowhere Nevada truck stop accent.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was just thinking the OP article's author missed an opportunity to mention that for this quality of product delivery, Musky believes he is worthy of a $44.9B payday.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like you can't even be mad at this point. He ripped them off to their face and they said YES! This should be the death nail in the cryptobro era but its not.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One can be mad for this way he increases his power to scam even more people and disrupt meaningful things by hyperlooping public transportation and teslaing EVs' reputation.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago

Nail, meet head.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

They voted to give him all that money again after a judge tried to save them. I don't even understand. No one is worth that kind of money.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This reminds me of the early days of the Model S; a friend of mine was an early adopter and he himself was surprised if it went two weeks without having to bring it in for something or the other.

Oh, and the dashboards that would occasionally freeze while driving. Luckily, Tesla knew it was a piece of shit, so you could just press and hold two buttons to reboot it.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The button press is actually fairly common in most cars. In most German cars (Audi, BMW, Mercedes) it used to be Back+Volume Power… but in all those cases it’d only reboot the infotainment system. Things like the speedometer were a completely seperate, more stable system.

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Tesla is a lemon orchard.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I was curious about what the other recall was since they say again, looks like it's to do with the truck bed:

The company also issued another Cybertruck recall, this one for a trim piece along the truck bed which can come loose and fall off.

At least it's fairly mundane. I've never owned a first run of a new model but still had to take my Subaru in for a recall one time because the airbag would sometimes shoot shrapnel in your face. That was a pretty big one though with quite a few models impacted.

Hopefully they get these issues ironed out soon so folks can get on with enjoying the vehicle they bought.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (6 children)

quite a few models

Nearly every japanese automaker's cars for several years. Takata airbag recall was a big deal

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

All in all, Tesla issued four Cybertruck recalls since the car went on sale.

There was also an issue with the accelerator pedal getting stuck in trim.

Another was the font size on warning lights was too small (and hard to read,). That one “only” required an OTA update.

Most of the problems are bullshit you expect in the cheapest cars. That it’s happening on something as expensive as a cybertruck is ridiculous and laughable.

It’s all 100% avoidable bullshit that should have been caught before hitting production. The wiper motor has a known torque, the driver known specs, literally could have been avoided by reading the specs on everything involved. (Or simply not cheaping out on a wiper motor.)

Every single CT I’ve seen in the wild or “wild photos” of have had quality control issues. Like bumpers not hung level.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

When you see recalls from other major automotive manufacturers, you see recalls on models that have a 250k-1M production range. Overall failures in this group is relatively low, so the recall is mostly a cover-their-ass measure to make sure all 500k of some car model is safe, even though they only had a tiny amount of incidents related.

The Cybertruck - all 11k of them - has already been recalled several times, and it’s issues which affect all of them (or almost all). Tesla being unable to roll out 11k trucks that aren’t Edsels is a huge hit to their reputation at a time when Tesla is already under fire from many different directions.

Regardless of the absurd design and the fact that owning a Cybertruck is a wholesale endorsement of Musk’s delusional narcissism, I’m confident that Tesla could have pulled this off as a quality vehicle had they tried. At least, a far less shitty version.

And this is no besmirchment on Tesla engineers, but a criticism of their management and terrible QA process (again, management). It wouldn’t surprise me at all of Tesla engineers said, “X, Y, and Z won’t work or will be crap, so we need to build it better, possibly with a redesign of certain components,” and Tesla execs (esp Elon) just responded, “Fuck it! We’ll fix it in post!”

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In my state (Wisconsin), it's considered a lemon if it's no more than a year old and under warranty, and:

  • It has a serious defect the manufacturer or dealer(s) didn't fix in four tries, or
  • It has one or more defects that prevent you from using it for 30 days or more (the 30 days need not be consecutive).

Cybertruck probably won't trigger the first clause, but I wonder about that second one.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

What does it mean if it's considered a lemon?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Manufacturer must provide either a comparable replacement vehicle or a full refund.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Comparable vehicle.

A dumpster full of lithium batteries shows up

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

I was thinking a Pinto.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Driving it will protect you from scurvy

[–] AlotOfReading@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It means the manufacturer is required to offer to buy it back. If the manufacturer resells it after fixing the issues, there must be paperwork attached and given to the next purchasers stating that it was a lemon.

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I saw a dude with a Cyuck (shorthand for cyber truck) at Costco the other day trying and failing to fit his new TV into the bed lol

At one point he gave up and tried fitting it into the back seat which didn't fare much better

[–] suction@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Conspicuously consuming stupid cars and buying a TV (we all know it’ll be tuned to Fox News 24/7) - yeah sounds about right. Far right.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

idc about recalls. why is this deathtrap legally allowed on the streets?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires pay off the right people.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

*Wealth hoarders Fixed that for you

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Or just parasites.

[–] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

*privileged children who's parents invested a hundred thousand dollars into their crazy computer software startup. None of them were nearly self made. They sell you a story of long cold nights in the warehouse floor but it's all a facade. They don't tell you about the investments their parents gave them. They hide how his father sold undocumented stolen emeralds abroad for a living. Do you know what Elon did in college? The dude rented a 10 bedroom mansion using the emerald money and hosted huge parties at it. Rich scum of the earth should just die. All of them criminals. That's how impossible it is to generate any meaningful wealth in this wasteland. They resort to criminal tactics. From the president all the way down to genius spacecraft builders. Do you know wtf would happen if I was to somehow host 500 person college parties? The fucking swat team would raid that shit in no time and I'd be charged with all kinds of crazy crimes. But the son of the stolen emeralds trader gets away with it perfectly.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A lot of cat companies have been caught faking testing and faking compliance over the years. I suspect it's not been eliminated as an option.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be honest I've never bothered to check the authenticity of my cat's compliance tests.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Typical American smh

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Tbh, cats are known for faking and cheating

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It looks like someone took a kid's crayon drawing of a car and built it.

[–] aliteral@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode with Homer's step-brother being a rich automaker and such...

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago
[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2024/TESLA/CYBERTRUCK/PU%25252FCC/AWD#recalls

You can always go to the NHTSA website to get info about recalls.

[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

But he's a genius just ask him

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Forever? /s

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah, it was too beautiful for this world... Probably they are now in some upstate playstation 1 farm.

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