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Hersh, Eitan; Royden, Laura (25 June 2022). "Antisemitic Attitudes Across the Ideological Spectrum" Political Research Quarterly.

doi:10.1177/10659129221111081

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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago

Remember kids, it’s not hypocrisy to be intolerant of the intolerant. They have broken the social compact and are therefore no longer protected by it.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 22 points 1 week ago

I was going to joke about some kind of social powder case, but it turns out that compact and contact are synonymous here.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I was going to joke about some kind of social vision correction device that goes on your eyeball, but then I realized you meant contract. ;)

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[-] LibertyLizard 94 points 1 week ago

Memes that come with citations? Now that’s how you shitpost.

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[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago

Im just a tad disappointed that according to this graphic fascism (which isnt exactly the same as nazism but whatever) is strictly a white issue.

Which, if you look at the world, clearly isn't the case. Fascism is everywhere.

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 71 points 1 week ago

I will believe in horseshoe theory when a fascist moves so far right that they accidently create a stateless, moneyless utopia.

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

This is playing down the actual behavior of fascists in a very careless way.

  • They do not just kick out minorities, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

  • They do not just jail dissenters, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

  • They do not just "say no" to Jews, once in power they systematically hunt down and murder them!

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not to be defending Fascists, but those you describe are the Nazi style ones.

Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece too had Fascist dictatorships and those pretty much did not care about Jews or minorities and whilst they were all autoritarian and happy to use state violence for oppression and suppression of dissidents, the only ones who did anything close to systematical murder were the ones in Spain in their early days and their targets were mainly those they deemed "Communists".

By comparison Zionists are more murderous than all of those 4, though not as much as the Nazis, and consider and treat a whole different ethnic group as "human animals" than the Nazis did.

In fact the use of specific ethnicities for Fascism in that table is a pretty good indication that the author(s) are deeply racist with a very specific slant on who their "good" ethnicities and "bad" ethnicities are: even without going into the whole Israel thing, just look at Modi in India to see Fascism in action whithout the perpetrators being White or the victims Jews.

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[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 11 points 1 week ago

Not quite.

Some fascsist do this, absolutely. Others, to appear moderate, kick out minorities and "just" jail dissenters. Will they eventually start murdering people? Absolutely.

But nearly no fascist nowadays advocates for murder. They must first radicalize the people once in control via salami slicing tactics. If you look for fascists, do not look for people advocating for murder - they will be noticeable enough anyways. Look for those who can be described with the picture in this post.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

I've usually heard horseshoe theory referring to tankies/authoritarian communists, not anti fascists.

[-] idiomaddict@feddit.de 24 points 1 week ago

My dad swears up and down that antifa are the real nazis. I think this would be a response to that type of thing.

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[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The main job of fascism is to protect capital when the majority of the working population grows disillusioned with capitalism and might get the wrong ideas about socialist revolution and stuff

[-] MelodiousFunk 31 points 1 week ago

Look, can't we just find some common ground and meet in the middle?

...hmm.

Alternatively

...double hmm.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

I just want to point out that not all fascists are Nazis. Can I point that out without getting crucified?

I will clarify that if you're any kind of fascist, you're a trash person, doubly so for Nazis specifically... But not all fascists are Nazis. Which the OP chart seems to imply.

To drive my point home, I'll quote Wikipedia: fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Nowhere in there does it say that fascists are anti-Semites, nor white supremacist. Those ideologies are generally attributed to specific fascist ideologies... Eg. Nazis.

Let's not sugar coat what people are. If they're Nazi fucks, let's call them Nazi fucks.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This very special take on Fascism brought to you by Zionists-R-Us.

(Remember, boys and girls, people from the Jewish ethnicity couldn't possibly be Fascists).

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago

Am i that much more extreme for thinking that the best solution for Nazis isn’t discriminating against them but educating people to respect so Fascist ideal can no longer take hold?

I know of intolerance for the intolerant, I've spread that message myself i am just no longer convinced that burying the problem into private conversations only (Which should be absolute free speech unless you want some sort of police control inside your home) is tackling the problem at the source.

My wish is to eradicate this ideology once and for all not to hide it like we try to do with homeless in rich neighborhoods.

[-] match@pawb.social 27 points 1 week ago

Education is better and preferred but ocne5 the Nazis are in the street they've already taken hold and need to be uprooted before we can go back to educating it away.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Guys, regarding white ethnonationalism: the key word here is egregious.

Sure, you got fascists who are not ethnonationalists. Or who are ethnonationalists towards another "race", such as the Hindutva ideology. However, white ethnonationalists are an egregious example. They exemplify the issue with fascism amazingly well, because they're the worst of the worst, and they're extra common.

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