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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 145 points 6 months ago (6 children)

You ever wonder why there are no videos of cops tackling and punching white supremacists during their protests?

(It’s cause the cops are on their side.)

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of videos of cops flashing white supremacist signs, though

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

These people should be much more tightly regulated

Why hasn’t he been identified and arrested for assault yet?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

May I introduce you to the term “police work stoppage”

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Dereliction of duty & loss of pension

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses"

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 months ago

Rage against the machine for everyone who doesn't know.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

It'd be awkward at the office the next day if they punched a coworker.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Friendly Fire is usually not enabled.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Too many just say no they should just open carry ignoring that it would just make the cops attack even harder

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At least you'll get to shoot back

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe, except all the examples of cops going from zero to "shooty-mcshooty-pants" as soon as they see or suspect you have a gun.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago

Or indeed an acorn.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

If it's one person, yes. If it's an entire crowd of people open carrying rifles, not so much.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's about sides, but not about racism, I think.

Just the profession is mostly attractive to cowards who want to fill the inner void of self-respect by violence against others (or fear). Quite similar to how people become racist.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It’s definitely about racism. Racists are welcomed in the force. They’re just encouraged to keep it on the DL. You know, only wear the hood on the weekends.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 78 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

It's crazy how this makes headlines around the world, yet we've had cops behave ten times worse with protesters here in Germany and it never leaves fringe news outlets. Not even one big German news outlet explicitly talks or goes into details on the cases of brutal police violence happening here. It feels like I'm living in a dystopian future. Beware, this is coming to you too.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's because of our past and now Israel can do no wrong and anyone who even hints at Israel doing a genocide is an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer. The media and politics bias is extreme

[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

I'm part jewish myself. My great grandmother was killed by the nazis during the Holocaust. Yet Germans are trying to gaslight people like me for speaking about the fact that Palestinians are humans and should be treated as such. All of the German talk about "Erinnerungskultur" (memory culture) makes me want to puke. It feels very performative and void of any substance.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's funny, I grew up listening to my clueless mother about how Germany has repented and Nazi stuff isn't tolerated because they understand the weight and all that nonsense.

I'm part Jewish. Reading EDIT: (accidental press) some of the stuff on the interwebs from Germans make me wish they were more like Japan FFS.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Germans love to pat themselves on the back while telling themselves that. But it's just performative. It has no substance, no value. Their nazi grandpas were still working for the government after the war. Some of them were even ministers. Some of them were big generals in the German army during and after the war. At the same time Germany is cracking down on the "bad jews" that do not fit their rabid colonialist ideology. Oh, where have I seen that before? Separating the bad jews from the good ones.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any vindication, the fact that this was reported by news outlets here means nothing. This cop will never see punishment beyond a slap on the wrist or some paid administrative leave at best. Police violence has already been institutionalized in America too.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Sadly it doesn't. I'm here just trying to warn people that things will get a lot worse.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

we’ve had cops behave ten times worse with protesters here in Germany and it never leaves fringe news outlets

Enormous numbers of German Jews being targeted by a Berlin PD that just got caught in a giant pro-Nazi Cops scandal a couple of years ago, all under the guise of the antisemitism statutes.

If I didn't know better, I might begin to suspect German obsequious deference to their shameful history has been twisted into a new state-sanctioned Kristallnacht.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any news articles (even local ones in German) to share regarding that? Would be interested in reading.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Just a ton of videos of police violence taken at protests and posted in activist groups on Instagram. I'll drop you some links to them here. As I've said, almost no german media outlets picks on these cases of extreme police violence even when they are actually there when it is happening so it's next to impossible for me to send you links to newspapers.

Most of these videos are from a few days ago. Oldest one is from three weeks ago. Honestly they're all scattered all throughout my gallery, so here are just the last few ones I've found now. This has been ongoing since last year.

Here you can see a police officer repeatedly hitting a protester that's already on the ground. Remember that cops have gloves with knuckles covered in hard plastic.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6OauD0MK7j/

There's also this one from the same event with cops pummeling protesters that are on the ground with fists and jumping on them with their knees.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6PSMzaxwUp

Here is one with a cop hitting a woman directly in the face, again, with hard gloves.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7Ji4JGM6Ta/

Here are some of cops spraying people with pepper spray at extremely close distance.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7H4E3OMGUW/

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7HjvAzMHEM/

Attacking sit-in protesters, jumping on them with their knees

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5HH7H3sNWN/

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6OXmErNRRu/

Beating on a man that’s on the ground

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Op_5LMudO/

This looks like a straight up rape scene (Major TRIGGER WARNING)

https://streamable.com/of0f86

Attacking a guy for peacefully carrying a flag

https://streamable.com/7rjsmt

Attacking a lone man at night

https://streamable.com/diprmv

Remember that these happened either over the last few days or very recently. This has been ongoing for many months now and there are many more horrible examples of this happening. There are also the many iconic pictures and videos of police officers holding protesters from the back while completely covering their eyes and mouths from behind. This is inhumane. Also most of these situations are easily avoidable, but cops are more trigger happy at some protests than at others for some reason. It seems like they've been let off the leash to escalate these situations to the extreme. These protests are almost always peaceful. They're not riots. They're not destroying the city. They're merely walking from one place to another and are met with extreme violence.

There are many reports of activists with broken noses, arms, or legs coming out of here (again, in activist groups and so on; also many of the victims are simply posting to look for witnesses to sue cops when they inevitably end up in the hospital because of them). One report of a protester ending up in intensive care after being beaten by the cops.

It also doesn't help that in Germany the chances of successfully suing a cop are close to zero. Police officers have the closest thing to immunity when it comes to being sued. Because they are sworn in under oath, their word always counts more in a court of law than yours, under German law. If they say you were resisting, then you were resisting and there's nothing to discuss.

So you can see, police violence that makes international headlines when it comes out of the US, goes unnoticed in Germany. It feels like I’m living in a fever dream, where the worst in the US is considered the norm in Germany.

EDIT: deleted further replies and added everything to the same comment for better readability

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Uff, that's hard. But people should definitely still try to sue if they feel up to it. This is the only way stuff like this gets out to the public!

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. Are your polzei intentionally firing rubber baton rounds at protesters' heads, breaking limbs, and pepper-spraying at point-blank? Haven't seen it reported as happening yet for the Gaza protests but there's a load of people from the BLM protests (where people wanted police to stop murdering fellow citizens) that suffered blindness and/or traumatic brain injuries (among other things) as a result.

I really hope your police aren't as bad as those in the US. Here they are generally legally untouchable and can even straight-up rob you by charging your property with a crime (they can it "civil asset forfeiture" and despite it being blatantly against the word and spirit of our Constitution, the courts keep declaring it somehow legal).

[–] febra@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Actually yes. They’ve been doing that. Minus the rubber bullets. I don’t think they have those here. Just watch the videos I linked in my other comment.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Fucking disgusting.
That's not proper procedure, that's assault. I would totally back that crowd if they swarmed in and beat the shit out of those cops after seeing that.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I completely expected at least some incidents of crowds mass uprising against cops during the 2020 brutalities. I don't mean burning down police stations. I mean literally attacking every cop on the street after Twitter was awash with cops running over protesters, cracking an old mans skull open, etc. I would have thought cops would be afraid of citizen mobs coming to their homes.

The degree of repression that we just accept, despite our anger, is shocking to me. And I say this as an anti-violence person. I wouldn't have taken part in such an uprising. But I thought there are enough people who would be pushed over the edge that I was sorta dismayed that a mini-revolution didn't happen.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

cracking an old mans skull open

The fact that the national guard stepped in immediately after the cop walked away is so telling. The actual military, deployed with rifles to calm down the riots, gives more of a shit about people than the police.

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

Honestly, until the working class realizes the cops work for the capitalists and are there to protect their property, not civilians, we will see more "don't have anything to fear" crowd stepping in to assist against this kind of thing.

However, most are still hung up on wedge issues like abortion to unite against the powers of their own oppression. So long as cops are seen as protectors to some, we will have bootlickers tonguing some pork brown-eye.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just remember: all protestors are antisemities

Also: "cops aren't bad, there's just one or two bad apples."

...ffs

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I never understood why they use that phrase. I swear not a single one has heard the entire phrase:

A few bad apples spoil the bunch.

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There’s a reason cops are called pigs, cause they’re fucking disgusting and shouldn’t be associated with actual humans!

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But they aren't kosher or halal!

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Abrahamic religions: surprisingly based?

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I disagree. One is a loving intelligent creature that we should respect and coexist with. The other is a police officer.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 6 months ago

Time for the Punisher. The protesters should have beat the cops ass. People need to start fighting back. We need the Black Panters again.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

It's Pro-Palestinian

Seen this ani/pro Gaza, as another small propaganda step, to not talk about Palestine or the people.

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