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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by PremiumNick@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's not even surprising anymore platforms do this & act all Pikachu face why piracy is spiking

Netflix & all these streaming platforms have completely lost touch & they will lose more customers in the long run

To quote Gabe Newell on Piracy

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

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[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

The pikachu face is capitalism working as intended, instead of the corrupt capitalism they’re used to with regions of the world carved up/tariffs/government buying the product if you’re having a bad year.

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 142 points 2 weeks ago

I accidentally pirate crap I have legitimate access to because I can't be bothered to figure out which damn platform its on. I have access to quite a few through work due to my industry at no out of pocket costs.

The times I try to actually search for something, it'll be listed on multiple platforms but 0 to 1 of those platforms will actually have what I'm looking for included with the subscription forcing me to manually check each one.

It is easier to just pirate.

[-] cerement 58 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that’s called the *arr suite

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[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Your case would apply for the legitimate use of streamio, where you can log into all the services and you can watch whatever through that service's credentials.

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[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 87 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Cable TV exists

Customers hate it and people start pirating

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

People happy, piracy goes down

Streaming services go back to the way cable was, increased prices, reduced content, started bundling shit you don't want.

Customers start pirating again

Surprised Pikachu face

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 52 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe if we put ads in and take away the ability to download content foe offline use?

[-] snownyte@kbin.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

NO! I've got something better!

We make the ads guilt you into using ad blockers! Then we pepper your active streaming with ADs every 30 seconds! YOU WILL BUY! YOU WILL CONSOOME!

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[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

The (admittedly inevitable) appearance of other streaming services was shit already since with it came exclusive content.

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 73 points 2 weeks ago

I despise ads. I can't even bring myself to watch Netflix or Amazon Prime. If there is advertising, it ain't worth it, no matter how cheap.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 29 points 2 weeks ago

There's not enough of us, but I still don't care. I refuse to pay to watch ads. Also, I had Prime and they wouldn't let me watch high def with firefox on Linux, so even though I paid for it, I had to hit the high seas to watch content in high def.

[-] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

There’s not enough of us, but I still don’t care. I refuse to pay to watch ads.

i had this conversation with my dad recently about how shitty everything is now with ads etc, and his response boiled down to "i don't care enough". sucks to see people being complacent in being subject to greedy corporate whims. as much as i want people with that mindset to care, i have no idea how to effectively argue against "i don't care".

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[-] cerement 68 points 2 weeks ago

very much a convenience factor – Apple broke the MP3 sharing scene with the simplicity (at the time) of iTunes – video streaming started out simple but now it’s turned into cable TV, trying to find out which service is streaming a particular show, if it’s region-locked, or gated behind a premium upgrade, or just been dropped completely, or two services are still arguing over who gets the rights, or find out all the seasons are on one service except one season is on another service …

[-] viking@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

Was iTunes popular outside of the US? Everyone I know hated they intrusive software and DRM that prevented you from playing the songs elsewhere. Don't think I know a single person who actually purchased music there.

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[-] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 65 points 2 weeks ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dear Netflix, I've been a loyal customer since 2013. I've been perfectly happy with our arrangement. YOU are the one terminating our contract, not me. It seems you'd prefer to get rid of a happy, paying customer in the hopes you can somehow persuade them to embrace a higher cost or shittier experience (ads). That's a bold move Cotton. Buh-bye dons pirate hat

YARR MATEYS

[-] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

AOL still has 1.5 million active monthly subscribers. People forget to cancel subscriptions all the time.

Subscriptions are a great way to sell a service to someone who isn't using it, and when they want to cancel it getting the spent money on something never used is generally impossible.

IMO for something like a streaming service... if you don't stream a minute of video in a month you shouldn't have to pay anything.

[-] cerement 8 points 2 weeks ago

thing is, most of us should of known, they pulled this same crap back when they tried forcing everyone to drop the physical discs and switch to streaming only …

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago

they first succeeded in curbing piracy before the moved to ruining the value of their offerings.

[-] DrummXYBA@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because i aint spending 3 figures a month on 5+ different sports streaming services to follow one team. Simple.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 38 points 2 weeks ago

Infamous implies somebody is famous in a negative way. If anything, Gabe is a shining example that should be upheld.

[-] Ixoid@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

"Infamous" - that means more than famous!

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think in this example it could go either way, depending on who is viewing it.

Regular people would say he's famous.

People running streaming platforms and other big corpos (especially Tim Sweeny) might say he's infamous.

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[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 36 points 2 weeks ago

They have billions of dollars i have hundreds. I'm sure they'll survive me not giving them any of my hard earned money

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but for a publicly traded company, quarterly growth is the name of the game. If the numbers go down long enough, it's game over for them.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

Won't somebody please think about the shareholders?

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I'll dance for them as I prance around the fire of their failed BSD l business model. Stupid, selfish cunts...

[-] noisypine@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm crying for them.

[-] r1ch134dl3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

it's game over for them

Hopefully.

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[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They don't even have to go down. Staying stable or even going up at a consistent rate are both considered failure states, or at least unfavorable. If the rate of growth is not itself growing then they start worrying.

It's insane.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 30 points 2 weeks ago

The funny bit to me is how obvious they are about restructuring their business model. Netflix clearly wants a greater proportion of their revenue to come from advertisers, so they're charging exorbitant prices for the 4K and, in particular, standard plan while keeping the "ad-supported" plan fairly low. They were probably seeing waves of short-term subscribers in response to big releases and are trying to bait those people into staying subscribed permanently while also milking then through advertisements. I wouldn't be surprised if the standard plan is removed at some point because it's such bad value now.

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[-] enleeten@discuss.online 28 points 2 weeks ago

Reed Hastings: "But our stock price shows customers love enshittification?"

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 1 week ago

Gee, we've tried taking content away, raising prices, injecting adverts and forcing them to use our crappy clients.

Why are people turning to piracy?

Advertising and lobbying are the only thing these people know how to do.

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[-] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago

The only thing that keeps me with subscriptions is the cartoons my daughter watches, because they are hard to find dubbed in my language (Portuguese). It's still more convenient to subscribe than try to find the dubbed cartoons online. For everything I watch I use my arr stack.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depending on her age of course... But you can find SRT (subtitle) files for literally almost everything, often in dozens of languages. They're super tiny too since it's basically just a txt file

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

There are still plenty of good deals in streaming if you have shifted to on-demand. If you want live TV or sports, they're out to gouge the fuck out of you. Luckily my Wife came around to on-demand only and an antenna. Of course, they're trying hard to take away the antenna option from everyone with ATSC 3.0.

[-] Thrife@feddit.de 25 points 2 weeks ago

Happens here in Germany too. We were not informed via mail but via a message when we started the app on the TV (not even on a phone). Since there are two other people on that account I decided to not just cancel but talk with both of them. We moved one tier down.. Yet.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

The studio cash grab explosion of streaming services is simply too inconvenient.
Subbing to everything you want to watch would still be cheaper than renting it all before streaming.
But Netflix has changed the value proposition and the stuidios are slitting their own throats trying to catch up.

[-] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Now I remember why I don't pay attention to 7 news. This article is an ad in itself.

[-] Nom@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Customers will notice the change on their next bill. Netflix has quietly put up its prices across each subscription tier in Australia.

~~Why is this even legal, oh who am I kidding lobbying most likely.~~ They began notifying people on May 13. Thanks for the correction @blindsight@beehaw.org.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

They get 30 days notice of the price increase. That's pretty reasonable and in compliance with the law, I would assume.

[-] palarith@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Case in point

The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare

Not available in Australia

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[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

I get Netflix for free from tmobile. But I use real-debrid and streamio to watch Netflix shows because the UI is better.

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