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[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 332 points 1 week ago

If this is true, then we should prepare to be shout at by chatgpt why we didnt knew already that simple error.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 238 points 1 week ago

ChatGPT now just says “read the docs!” To every question

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 189 points 1 week ago

Hey ChatGPT, how can I ...

"Locking as this is a duplicate of [unrelated question]"

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[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 week ago

And then links to a similar sounding but ultimately totally unrelated site.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 214 points 1 week ago

I got an email ban.

1609 hours logged 431 solved threads

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[-] Bell@lemmy.world 180 points 1 week ago

Take all you want, it will only take a few hallucinations before no one trusts LLMs to write code or give advice

[-] sramder@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago

[…]will only take a few hallucinations before no one trusts LLMs to write code or give advice

Because none of us have ever blindly pasted some code we got off google and crossed our fingers ;-)

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's way easier to figure that out than check ChatGPT hallucinations. There's usually someone saying why a response in SO is wrong, either in another response or a comment. You can filter most of the garbage right at that point, without having to put it in your codebase and discover that the hard way. You get none of that information with ChatGPT. The data spat out is not equivalent.

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[-] Spedwell@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

We should already be at that point. We have already seen LLMs' potential to inadvertently backdoor your code and to inadvertently help you violate copyright law (I guess we do need to wait to see what the courts rule, but I'll be rooting for the open-source authors).

If you use LLMs in your professional work, you're crazy. I would never be comfortably opening myself up to the legal and security liabilities of AI tools.

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[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 152 points 1 week ago

So they pulled a "reddit"?

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago

These companies don't realise their most engaged users generate a disproportionate amount of their content.

They will just go to their own spaces.

I think this a good thing in the long run, the internet will become decentralised again.

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[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 144 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reddit/Stack/AI are the latest examples of an economic system where a few people monetize and get wealthy using the output of the very many.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 140 points 1 week ago

First, they sent the missionaries. They built communities, facilities for the common good, and spoke of collaboration and mutual prosperity. They got so many of us to buy into their belief system as a result.

Then, they sent the conquistadors. They took what we had built under their guidance, and claimed we "weren't using it" and it was rightfully theirs to begin with.

[-] andrade@infosec.pub 132 points 1 week ago
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[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago

Oh I didn't consider deleting my answers. Thanks for the good idea ~~Barbra~~ StackOverflow.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

I'd be shocked if deleted comments weren't retained by them

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[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 95 points 1 week ago

Letting corporations "disrupt" forums was a mistake.

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[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago

Maybe we should replace Stack Overflow with another site where experts can exchange information? We can call it "Experts Exchange".

[-] deddit@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago

codidact ... Stack overflow had a mass exodus of mods a 2-3 years ago and a some of them made codidact.

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 89 points 1 week ago

At the end of the day, this is just yet another example of how capitalism is an extractive system. Unprotected resources are used not for the benefit of all but to increase and entrench the imbalance of assets. This is why they are so keen on DRM and copyright and why they destroy the environment and social cohesion. The thing is, people want to help each other; not for profit but because we have a natural and healthy imperative to do the most good.

There is a difference between giving someone a present and then them giving it to another person, and giving someone a present and then them selling it. One is kind and helpful and the other is disgusting and produces inequality.

If you're gonna use something for free then make the product of it free too.

An idea for the fediverse and beyond: maybe we should be setting up instances with copyleft licences for all content posted to them. I actually don't mind if you wanna use my comments to make an LLM. It could be useful. But give me (and all the other people who contributed to it) the LLM for free, like we gave it to you. And let us use it for our benefit, not just yours.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago

Begun, the AI wars have.

Faces on T-shirts, you must print print. Fake facts into old forum comments, you must edit. Poison the data well, you must.

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[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago

You really don't need anything near as complex as AI...a simple script could be configured to automatically close the issue as solved with a link to a randomly-selected unrelated issue.

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[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 1 week ago

Messages that people post on Stack Exchange sites are literally licensed CC-BY-SA, the whole point of which is to enable them to be shared and used by anyone for any purpose. One of the purposes of such a license is to make sure knowledge is preserved by allowing everyone to make and share copies.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago

That license would require chatgpt to provide attribution every time it used training data of anyone there and also would require every output using that training data to be placed under the same license. This would actually legally prevent anything chatgpt created even in part using this training data from being closed source. Assuming they obviously aren't planning on doing that this is massively shitting on the concept of licensing.

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

Share Alike

I can't wait to download my own version of the latest gpt model

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[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

The enshittification is very real and is spreading constantly. Companies will leech more from their employees and users until things start to break down. Acceleration is the only way.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago

primary use for AI is self destructing your website.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago

I despise this use of mod power in response to a protest. It's our content to be sabotaged if we want - if Stack Overlords disagree then to hell with them.

I'll add Stack Overflow to my personal ban list, just below Reddit.

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[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago

And the enshittification continues...

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[-] inset@lemmy.today 66 points 1 week ago

I fully understand why they are doing this, but we are just losing a mass of really useful knowledge. What a shame...

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[-] Hypx@fedia.io 66 points 1 week ago

Eventually, we will need a fediverse version of StackOverflow, Quora, etc.

[-] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 1 week ago

Those would be harvested to train LLMs even without asking first. 😐

[-] sramder@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

At this point I’m assuming most if not all of these content deals are essentially retroactive. They already scrapped the content and found it useful enough to try and secure future use, or at least exclude competitors.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 63 points 1 week ago

Data should be socialized and machine learning algorithms should be nationalized for public use.

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[-] nasduia@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

Why does OpenAI want 10 year old answers about using jQuery whenever anyone posts a JavaScript question, followed by aggressive policing of what is and isn't acceptable to re-ask as technology moves on?

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[-] kubica@kbin.social 56 points 1 week ago

I'm going to run out of sites at this pace.

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago

Right? It seems like the modern internet is made up of like 5 monolithic sites, and unlimited SEO spam.

I know that's not literally true, but it sure feels like it.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

While at the same time they forbid AI generated answers on their website, oh the turntables.

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 53 points 1 week ago

Rather than delete, modify the question so its wrong. Then the ai will hallucinate.

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 week ago

Reddit did almost the same and don't forget guys to delete your Reddit account

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

A malicious response by users would be to employ an LLM instructed to write plausibly sounding but very wrong answers to historical and current questions, then an army of users upvoting the known wrong answer while downvoting accurate ones. This would poison the data I would think.

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Maybe we need a technical questions and answers siteon the fediverse!

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Time to download the last dump: https://archive.org/details/stackexchange

E: Seeding.

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