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...and I don't know which possibility is the least worrying

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[-] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 270 points 2 weeks ago

Don't be fooled by randomness. Randomness comes in clumps. For example if you flipped a thousand coins every day for a year and measured how each one predicted the stock market, heads for up, tails for down, at the end of the year you'll likely have one coin that far out performs the average. But would you use that coin to determine your investment strategy the next year?

And yeah Boeing is now killing people outside of their planes.

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 87 points 2 weeks ago

Boeing is now killing people outside of their planes.

That's a great line!

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 26 points 2 weeks ago

Finally I have a reliable way of finding my magic stockmarket coin. Thank you kind stranger!

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[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not really. That is just a fact that there's only 365 days, and the more samples you make increases the odds it's a sample that overlaps with another (there are fewer unique options).

What the OP is saying is that sometimes randomness can appear less random than other randomness. True randomness will occasionally give results that closely match something non-random. It's why almost all music players don't use true random for shuffle. True random you could have the same song play 15 times in a row. In fact, that is expected to happen eventually (assuming infinite time) just as all other sets of 15 songs are.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

My dream is for Spotify (and other music playing apps) to let you customize your shuffle algorithm. Minimum number of songs between repeating an artist or album, that sort of thing.

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[-] RampageDon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Idk if we have any NYJ fans in here, but 2 years ago the coin meme was born. One fan flipped the same quarter every game to predict a win or a loss. It was correct for like the first 7 or so games of the season. It was a pretty wild ride predicting some unpredictable upsets for the jets for both wins and loses.

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The latest death was due to disease (flu and MSRA, leading to pneumonia and apparently a stroke), though, and his family confirmed as such. Many of these whistle-blowers are older experienced engineers who will be biased towards a higher death rate.

Still, fuck Boeing though. The first suicide remains suspect. Corporate scumbags.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago

The hitman just coughed on him. Devious.

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[-] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

the first suicide is not suspect, as far as I've heard the guy specifically said he is not suicidal JUST IN CASD something like this would happen, but that's either not true or that fact sadly did not gain attention

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago

Many of these whistle-blowers are older experienced engineers who will be biased towards a higher death rate.

This, plus being highly involved in any court case is extremely stressful, which can take a toll on your mental and physical health.

Which is why I'm still kinda leaning towards an actual suicide with the first case. Being stressed, tired, having your life dictated around court schedules while you sleep in hotel rooms....... I could see that wearing someone down after a while.

I just don't think it makes real sense for a company to hire an actual hitman to operate in the US. Corporate murders happen, but usually overseas, and usually not when they've already testified.

Not saying it isn't a possibility, I just think it'd be cheaper to pay the guy off and have him sign an NDA.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

A whistleblower is the type of person to refuse such an NDA, regardless of buy-off price. They would understand that if Boeing is willing to pay them 10 million or whatever, that the information they have, should they release it, prevent over 10 million dollars worth of damages to the public.

I just don't see someone like that committing suicide in a hotel parking lot out of state the day (two days?) before they are supposed to testify. That would go against everything they were doing up until that point.

They wouldn't just.. go home instead?

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[-] steventrouble@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Corporate murders happen, but usually overseas, and usually not when they’ve already testified.

Do you have a source for that? I doubt there's graph of "workers murdered by companies, by country" or "murders, pre- vs post- whistleblowing" so it sounds like that might be at best an educated guess, or at worst pro-US bias.

The only stats I could find show that historically the US has had a terrible record for worker deaths during labor disputes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_worker_deaths_in_United_States_labor_disputes

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[-] tyler@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

Influenza B and MRSA? I’m not sure I’m convinced… but yeah. A bit different than the last death.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

If he was hospitalized for the influenza, getting MRSA while there isn't all that surprising.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

A viral infection causing a secondary bacterial infection is incredibly common. The phlegm and various secretions caused by the virus act as a breeding ground for the bacteria.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

A person could easily be ~~poisoned~~, I mean infected with Flu and MRSA.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

They definitely killed the first. Just learned about the second and hearing it was MRSA? So who knows. Maybe they're borrowing some bioweapon tech from their pals at McDonnell Douglas.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

They killed the first guy through years of abuse, not by directly killing him.

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago
[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

If Boeing supplied the bullet, it would've shattered before it left the gun

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 32 points 2 weeks ago

it could also be coincidence. humans are great at assuming patterns

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

I believe in coincidences. I don't trust coincidences.

[-] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Are you a humble tailor by any chance?

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That is true, but let’s not forget big companies have been found guilty (rarely punished) of crimes with no respect for human lives or even rights whatsoever. It isn’t very smart to consider extermination a fact, however it is smart to assume it is a possibility, especially if you are an ethical Boeing employee.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

Or it's a coincidence. N=2

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Still statistically significant, even with a high margin of error our only evidence points towards it being a trend

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Sample size could also be too low, no?

[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago

Possibly. We'll probably see eventually, either through a myriad of deaths, or a lawsuit with a lot of witnesses.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

n=2 is a terrible sample size

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[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The guy already gave his statement at a deposition. Why on earth would they kill him after the fact?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Perhaps as a warning to other potential whistleblowers?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe the compound infection took longer to take effect than they had planned.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

To stop others having the same idea.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago

To give conspiracy theorists something to do.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a message about the consequences of such a move

[-] steventrouble@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago

It could be random chance. It also could just as likely not be. The only correct answer is "we don't know".

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 14 points 2 weeks ago

Coincidence or not, it must've caused a chilling effect to other whistleblowers.

[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Boeing investors are probably thinking twice.

[-] rodneylives@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's still easily possible that it's just a coincidence.

B-U-T

The fact that people are going to be very suspicious if whistleblowers die, even if it is purely accidental, is yet another reason not to do terrible corporate things. People will always wonder, and Boeing's management deserves the dark cloud that will now hang over their heads.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Remember, deaths come in threes! I wonder which Boeing whistleblower will be next.

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tuxrandom@kbin.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Let me guess, suicide by 17 gunshots to the back of his head? In his car in a hotel parking lot?

[-] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

No, sudden illness I'm afraid. He arrived in hospital a few days ago for pneumonia like symptoms. poor bugger fell out of a window twice.

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