Yes yes everything critical of the Israeli genocide machine is antisemitism, we’ve heard that one before Joe.
How about you stop funding genocide instead of trying to paint people as racist for resisting.
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Yes yes everything critical of the Israeli genocide machine is antisemitism, we’ve heard that one before Joe.
How about you stop funding genocide instead of trying to paint people as racist for resisting.
Earlier in Israel's Genocide that's exactly the way his spokesperson used the "antisemitism" accusation in a White House press conference so it makes sense to conclude that's still exactly how Biden and his Adminstration use it.
Edit: I was a bit incorrect. She's been doing it by saying that using "from the river to the sea" is antisemitic up until the point in a briefing in December when she was confronted with how Netanyahu's son himself had used that sentence and "does that mean he is an antisemite", by which point she fumbled and suddenly discovered they were "out of time".
Also at least until that point (in mid December) the Biden Administration would talk about "antisemitism in demonstrations" because people had chanted "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free".
It wasn't in "a" White House Press Conference, it was in multiple White House Press Conferences and went on at least until mid December and that specific question from a journalist of "so would you say Netanyahu's son is antisemite", so already well into the point when Israel had already murdered tens of thousands of Palestinians including over 10 thousand children.
Notice how "from the river to the sea" has no meaning in the Jewish Religion, so it's entirelly about Israel, so things which were about Israel and not about the Jewish Religion were being deemed "antisemitism" by this Administration.
Except there have been antisemitic incidents, namely verbal harassment. You can condemn antisemitism and condemn Israel. You can also protest Israel without spewing epithets at any Jew you come across.
And god forbid Biden condemn Palestinian hate, right?
Right and the BLM protests were all about causing violence and looting?
I’m sick of this right wing tactic of focusing on some inconsequentially insignificant portion of multiple events, many with zero instances of the priority complaint even occurring and using that to frame the entire movement to discredit it.
“Oh but Biden also wrapped it up with a throw away comment saying he’s totes mcgotes not okay with the happening right now genocide that he is materially supporting”
Advantageous looting follows a lot of civil unrest. Not sure how that’s relevant here.
The fact is that people on campus were being harassed solely based on their background. That’s okay?
It’s not really insignificant when you’re looking at Columbia in particular. Maybe at other schools, but you just said you don’t like people bringing in irrelevant events to the discussion, so I won’t go there.
I see you completely ignored the part where Biden condemned Israel, since it doesn’t fit your narrative. Let me guess, you won’t support the democrats because “both parties are the same”.
Condemnation is words, and talk is cheap. I want action.
US sanctions to Israel would instantly stop the Genocide and make Netanyahu's government fall within a week.
The actions that the Biden's Administration's choses to take: send them 2000lb bombs which the US itself almost never uses because of their huge collateral damage and likelihood of killing innocent civilians.
As in he condemns both antisemitism and he condemns apathy for Palestinians. That makes sense. Antisemitism is bad. Pro-Palestinian is good. I hate that we're still funding Israel. But I'm glad he's been openly critical of Netanyahu and has been constantly been pushing for aid to Gaza.
The Israeli lobby and PR machine is going into overdrive over these protests. It must be working. How can we support them?
Republicans and Democrats are united on this too.
What news are you reading? Republicans want more funding for Israeli defense. They tried to draft legislation for Israel aid independent of Ukraine and Taiwan. You’re joking, right?
Edit: And Trump has encouraged the eradication of the Palestinians as long as Israel “doesn’t record it”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
they both seem to be pro israel, regardless of funding strategies
That’s true. Historically, America has always been in support of Israel. Democrats support Israel, and Republicans support Israel and push for an active war with Iran.
And what does the Democratic party want?
Both sides support Israel, but they’re far from united. Republicans have been pushing Israel to take the fight directly to Iran since the proxy conflict started in ‘85. Believe it or not, this is a more moderate version of support than the republicans would have if they were in control.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict
The democrats are smart enough to know that it's not a good look to be rooting for more violence, but they are still materially interested in supporting Israel's domination in the region.
It's only meaningfully different if all you care about is aesthetics.
Aesthetics? Trump encouraged the eradication of Palestinians, and criticized Israel for recording proof of their crimes. You’re playing with fire even considering a more moderate response from a republican.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
So he's saying there's very fine people on both sides?
Sounds more like he's saying there's assholes on both sides.
Are the antisemitic protests in the room with us Joe? Can you point to one of them for us?
Just more finger pointing without substance to try to discredit protests. Yesterday's CNN article specifically about antisemitism at Columbia protests didn't provide any more specifics than one Jewish student saying how scared he was because someone confronted him. Doesn't say about what or offer any specifics of the confrontation, just that he was scared.
Blanket accusations of antisemitism continue to undermine efforts to call out legitimate antisemitism, which is still a problem.
This out of touch old man will deliver us a fascist in November.
Another day passes, and amid further deflections from world leaders the genocide continues onward.
This weekend, Israel bombings in Rafah killed 22 people. 18 of them were children. How many more Palestinian children will be bombed to death before the next weekend?
Recognizing genocide as deplorable isn’t antisemitism - it’s morality.
What a complete asshat