My experience has been that a smaller bird will attack the bird of prey relentlessly till they're on their way.
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Tru dat. Small birds are more maneuverable. If it's pure bird-on-bird aerial combat, the bird with less mass will pretty much always have the advantage; they can get behind the big bird and just peck it from above until they feel like stopping. It's a very rare inversion of the usual rules of Nature Fight.
Really depends on the individual birds in question IMO. A red tailed hawk for example is really best optimized for prey on the ground like rabbits. On the other hand, a peregrine falcon is optimized for aerial prey and they eat everything from hummingbirds to geese
Doesn't the peregrine take those out at mach 69 from the air and not while the cocky little shit is talking smack in his ear on a branch though?
Get fucked big falcon. This is lil birb territory.
That’s what they’re famous for. However, they can catch prey like songbirds by simply being faster and more agile than the quarry, chasing them down in horizontal flight. Some journal articles credit it with a horizontal top speed in the 90 mph range.
O_o ... I've got... I've got a nest to attend to...
Get outta here with your actual domain knowledge
I was watching some crows chase around an eagle the other day. The pathetic squee noises it made like it’s saying “I toldja I was sorry I ate your babies” has me wondering why we have all fallen for this whole eagles are a symbol of power gobbledegook.
Mostly less efficient vultures, but way more magnificent, so they've got that going for them. (In Australia, so the Wedge Tail eagle is the niche filler and very much a scavenger, always a pleasure to see tho)
Bald eagles are amazing fishers. They will take any opportunities for free meals, but they are also exceptional hunters.
3 crows that hang out near my house and join my chickens and ducks when I toss scratch and treats out have made it their mission to keep said birds safe.
Wife and I watched them hassle a hawk until it flew away, gen they came back and chilled on our fence. Tossed them some French fries for the work well done
I watched a falcon casually tear a smaller bird into pieces and spit its feathers under a tree in my front yard over the course of 20 minutes
I'm not super familiar with falcon, it was mostly red tails and sharp shinned hawks where I grew up. Smaller birds were always hyper aggressive with the larger predatory birds. I assumed they were trying to chase the larger birds away from their nest or out of their territory. I've never seen a red-tail go after a bird. Its usually snakes, mice, and rabbits.
I saw a hawk and a Robin going at it one day. It fucked me up when the Robin hit the hawk and it started to fall. Didn't see the aftermath as I was driving but either way. Never expected a hawk to lose against a Robin.
Robins are aggressively territorial. Pretty much every time you hear them chirping it's either saying "FUCK OFF!!!" or "FUCK ME!!!".
I feel like that's most animals though lol
This is like that one meme about the kestrel stealing from a falcon or something.
The risk I took was calculated. But man, am I bad at math.
Man, that meme template is really good
That's the one. I remember the first time I saw it I laughed for hours.
Coopers hawk and male house finch? I'm a beginner border pls halp identify
Google tells me Red Shouldered Hawk and Red Crossbill. Maybe that's why they hang out together. Gang colors.
Hmm I'm a beginner myself, but I don't think the beak looks right for a crossbill....
Courage is knowing you're likely to fail, but taking a chance and doing your best anyway. Stupidity is thinking there's little to no risk when there's a lot.
Do not attribute to courage that which can be attributed to stupidity.
Also, "Never Attribute to Malice That Which Is Adequately Explained by Stupidity/Incompetence", one form of Hanlon's razor.
So, Transitively, courage is not malicious?
I've seen more small birds harassing large ones than the other way around. Agility is important in the air. And surprise is important to how large birds hunt.
Though the bird in the picture might be asking for it to get that close while not in the air.
Which razor is this? I like it.
Gillette Vector Pro Plus 3000 with advanced cooling gel pad. Makes your face look like a boiled egg.
Also known as Hanlon's razor.
I thought Hanlon's razor pertained to malice, not courage. Is there no distinction between the two?
You're right about the malice bit. Maybe there are corollaries?
It's not listed on Wikipedia's list of philosophical razors, so I guess that means you get to name it :)
Mr. Unicorn Man's razor: Never attribute to courage that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Wouldn't that be Etterra's razor? Or do logical principles work of the "first published" method of naming?
Good point, it should probably be Etterra's razor.
Is that hawk going to scarf on the little one now?