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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 157 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It is always morally correct to pirate Adobe.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I had adobe Photoshop pirated for a while, butsomehow it shadow updated and adobe took away my access to using Photoshop without paying for it. That was for the most recent version of Photoshop. I guess adobe found out how to stop people from cracking the .exe.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

There are a lot of great replacements for Adobe programs. If you're going to spend money, maybe try them out and then donate to the ones you like!

GIMP or Kita for video editing are solid, DaVinci Resolve is an excellent video editor, and now browsers like Firefox can edit PDFs! Adobe should get bent with their insane fees.

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

*image editing (instead of the first instance of "video editing"), and you probably meant Krita not Kita

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Photoshop alternatives have been making some headway lately:

First, the one everyone knows, GIMP. And yes, it's a steep learning curve, and yes, it's incredibly frustrating. But it's feature rich and (last I checked) the most comparable to Photoshop in what it can do. If you're patient and willing to learn it, it can become a permanent FOSS replacement for you. If you use Photoshop a lot, I'd say this is very much worth the effort.

There's also PhotoGIMP which is an addon that revamps the GIMP interface to make it more user friendly for people that only know Photoshop. Think of it like a translator.

Other options are Photopea: browser based, but is useful for the basic stuff.

Darktable: don't know much about it, seems like it might be more of a Lightroom alternative, but I've heard good things.

And there's the rising star Krita: it was mostly for artists but they're branching out into more photography-based features lately. It's pretty robust.

There's also Affinity Photo 2, which is a true Photoshop alternative in that it's paid software, but it's a one time payment for a permanent license, like Photoshop used to be.

[–] codeddji@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Affinity just got bought by Canava. 1 time purchase license for now. But we will have to see !!!

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago

Why bother? Adobe's pdf viewer is a bloated mess. It takes up a huge amount of space and processing power, and it constantly phones-home. It isn't something I'd want on my computer even if they were paying me to have it.

[–] art@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alternative Take: There's some pretty damn good alternative software. Nothing is a drop in 1:1 replacement, but damn good options. You can easily edit a PDF with LibreOffice.

[–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago

libreoffice suite got me through university!

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 116 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just so yall know, Firefox added a pdf editor.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even Edge is a pretty good Windows default for viewing and editing PDFs.

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 69 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Firefox just added PDF editing to the native browser!

[–] wonderfulvoltaire@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Let's get this bread

[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To all the windows users out there, just use Okular its free and available in the Microsoft Store. its a KDE application and still better than Adobe imo.

[–] Discover7343@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I love Okular on my Linux (EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma 6). Wasn't aware Okular was available on PC. Thanks for the info.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

PDF is not a format designed for editing. It's an export format designed to be a middle ground between a word processor and a printer.

You can bastardise extra layers onto it, but that's about it.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But sometimes you need to edit it. Checking boxes. Signing things. Changing numbers so you can lie about things.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It was designed for that but not really marketed to be used that way so it's thought of as a lockable universally supported document format.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not to be that guy, but there are plenty of free pdf editors that you can download

[–] oce@jlai.lu 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you have the latest Firefox, it's included now.

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[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Also, macOS has some built in PDF editing tools in Preview. You can add text, signatures, draw lines and shapes, highlight, add notes, and split or combine PDFs.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Money aside, Adobe tools for PDF have gotten worse. Ten years ago Adobe was much easier and robust.

All my opinion, of course.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I definitely agree that it's getting harder to use. Working in print, I use it every day and every time they update the ui they find ways to slow down my work flow. My favourite is when they change or even remove keyboard shotcuts that have worked forever or hide certain tools because they've added a newer, worse way to do the same thing.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Haven't used any Adobe programs for over a decade but I believe you. Almost everything's getting worse, smaller (except when that's desirable), less robust and more error prone while simultaneously getting much more expensive.

Shrinkshittififlation is the new bullshit norm.

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[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Public service announcement: Open a PDF using Word and you can edit it, though sometimes the formatting gets weird.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The latest update from Firefox also lets you edit PDFs in the browser, and without any formatting weirdness

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Inkscape, which is free and open source, does a very competent job of taking part .pdfs and allowing you to modify them these days.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 7 months ago

LibreOffice draw is good too

[–] benjihm@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I still think it's crazy that, as a researcher who has to read a lot of PDFs, I can barely find any usable alternatives to Acrobat that have basic annotation features. This is especially true for Android platforms, where I do most of my reading.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

pdf24 is very neat.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 7 months ago

*opens issue on opensource bugtracker demanding propietary features for free*

"I can't believe the devs haven't implemented this yet!"

*doesn't donate a cent*

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can now edit PDFs on Firefox

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There are alternatives, fortunately. If you need to do a lot of editing, Nitro is pretty good. You can pay about $15 a month for it, or pay a one time cost of like $180 and have a lifetime license. If you don't like Nitro, there's plenty of others.

What pisses me off is that Adobe marketing has people locked in with that "Pro Tools" mindset. So many gullible dumbasses think if you don't use Adobe (or Pro Tools) you just can't be taken seriously, and you don't have a "real, professional tool". I think that is less true today than it used to be, but it's still out there.

(Meanwhile if you need a Pro Tools alternative, Reaper is the fucking bomb.)

[–] skittlebrau@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The software is entrenched. If you’re a graphic designer who exchanges project files with others, you have to use Adobe CC because everyone else is. There’s really no way around that unfortunately.

You have more options if you’re a freelancer who doesn’t need to collaborate however.

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[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Use GIMP or LibreOffice Draw

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[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Avast, yee scallywags!

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fuck PDF's, all my homies hate PDF's

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[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Who really pay for Adobe pdf suite ?

Really I can find many open source solution that can edit PDF, even OCR the PDF for free (you might need to run OCR engine with your CPU, or pay for OCR service)

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[–] Quill7513 9 points 7 months ago

I legitimately do not know why my work pays for adobe acrobat for all employees. Apple Preview is good enough for all the engineers with macbooks

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 9 points 7 months ago

Firefox

Libreoffice Draw

Gnome Document Viewer

[–] Joep@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Only thing more pirated than Windows products are Adobe products. Smallest violin, etc etc

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How come adobe managed to pull off some weird "monopoly" with that file format? 🙃

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[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like every creative professional.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

An example of how this manifests:

I’ve started enjoying to use Final Cut for personal video projects. I’m now wishing I could use it at my day job. But we have momentum with Premiere. We need old projects to work. We need to collaborate across the team. Etc.

Momentum keeps Adobe running. This is part of why totally new Adobe apps take off slow. And why Adobe has had success buying out the momentum other companies have built. See Substance, and many other acquisitions.

Autodesk runs on this momentum too.

I’m really happy to watch Blender grow and turn into something that has this sort of Momentum. It’s a wonderful counter example.

This is only one dimension to the whole situation. But I think it’s a strong one.

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[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

PDFs are kind of nice. but ideally we, as a society, took a wrong turn somewhere when we opted for complex proprietary bloated filetypes that nobody can understand or use.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

FYI, every version of macOS for over two decades has PDF creating/editing/signing built into the Preview app for free.

If you don't use Macs, you should at least be friends with someone who does.

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