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Sudo is coming to Windows 11 (devblogs.microsoft.com)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by starman@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052 to the Canary and Dev Channels.

Insiders in the Canary Channel will receive Build 26052.1000 while Insiders in the Dev Channel will receive Build

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 180 points 8 months ago (9 children)

"Let's give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it's not the same app and behaves differently. I'm sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later."

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 69 points 8 months ago (2 children)

To be consistent with Powershell's command structure, they should call it "Get-Access" or something similar...

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 70 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Given the horrible verbosity of PS utils, I'd expect they just abandon subtlety and call it Substitute-User-Do-Operation

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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can we truncate it to Get-Ass?

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

> Set-Alias -Name Get-Ass -Value Get-Access
> Get-Ass
Get-Access : Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x00000000 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

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[–] starman@programming.dev 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

"Because we are Microsoft, the company known for giving its products perfectly reasonable and not confusing names"

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sentinel, Defender (not the AV, lol), Entra. I hear these daily in meetings and don't know what the hell they are. (Not my job)

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sentinel is MS's SEIM product, defender is likely people referring to their paid av offering, Entra is what they renamed AzureAD recently which is their identity management platform. Not sure why they renamed the last one azureAD was a good name for it.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

Maybe because they were getting tired of hearing from admins frustrated that Azure AD still doesn't have full feature parity with "normal" AD? Now it's clearly a separate product at least.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think Google's the worst for this. Examples such as the browser Chrome, when browser chrome has been a thing for a long time. Go, a very common verb and keyword and also now a programming language. Not to be confused with their Go Links, which was a URL shortener. And then there's all the ones they either rebrand or retire and/or replace.

Perhaps they want confusing names because they think other search engines can't handle the ambiguity.

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

To be honest, other programming languages aren't named any better

Pascal is just a common name, Rust is a common noun, Java is an island which you cannot find by searching for just its name, Python's a snake, C# is a musical note and C is just a letter.

[–] Nyfure@kbin.social 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

afaik they also alias common linux/gnu commands like curl.. but the syntax isnt like curl at all

[–] OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

I definitely spent a frustrated 45 minutes trying to figure out why curl wasn't working when it was supposed to be supported in PowerShell.

then I hit tab a couple of times and noticed curl.exe was an option, that works exactly the same as I had expected with original syntax.

they do this to a lot of things though a lot of common commands end up being an alias to a powershell command with a specific option set that doesn't always line up

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder which sudo Bing will default to find 🤔

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Phil Collins, probably.

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[–] krimson@feddit.nl 74 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] Liome@pawb.social 66 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Windows is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Glitchington@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

They are tired of right clicking Command Prompt to "Run as Administrator". They've been doing it for decades, they can have one tiny piece of QoL improvement.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I bet you not even sudo could remove edge. edge is like the breathing lungs and thinking brain and balls of computer

[–] javasux@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

HTTP is stored in the balls

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"This action is forbidden. The incident has been reported."

And then MS sends goons to your house to break your legs

[–] isles@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

That's an unpalatable response - instead you're sentenced to 10 hours of Browser Reeducation classes

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And, knowing Windows, won't let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. "Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!"

[–] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you remember when Microsoft tried to patent sudo?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

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[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago

It is an ergonomic and familiar solution for users who want to elevate a command without having to first open a new elevated console.

Yeah Microsoft, how exactly is it familiar for Windows users? 😜

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Finally. Although, I bet it's going to be one of these looongass PS OO commands, with an alias tied to it.

Probably Escalate-RegularUserPrivelige and smack a mandatory -Confirm argument in there as well, just to be annoying.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Although you have to admire that PowerShell at least attempts to define a common set of verbs and vocabulary.

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[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The trick to powershell is to make incredibly liberal use of tab completion to speed yourself up. Or make aliases for commands you use really often.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I get that it can be a pain to type long commands out the first time, but if you're using a terminal or an editor without tab completion in 2024 then you've chosen to do things the hard way.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sudo rm -rf c: --no-preserve-root

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More like sudo rm -rf C: --no-preserve-C-drive

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[–] Toes@ani.social 13 points 8 months ago

This has been needed since Windows XP SP2.

Glad to see they've finally started doing their backlog tickets.

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

alias sudo=runas

Wow, so exciting.

[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 11 points 8 months ago

Honestly, it's hardly newsworthy given how sudo was a thing in windows for quite a while now. I use it pretty often, especially sudo pwsh for elevated shells.

[–] nix@merv.news 9 points 8 months ago

Its been a thing for a while on windows 10 as well https://github.com/gerardog/gsudo

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 8 points 8 months ago
[–] ransomwarelettuce@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I been using gsudo for quite sometime, the default way to leverage privaliges in Windows is cancer, the whole shell is tbh.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

ah finally our imposters are in senior positions

[–] Curdie@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do ssh-copy-id next please.

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