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The former president has made clear once again that he believes the office should have absolute power

The D.C. Federal Court of Appeals is expected to hand down a decision on Donald Trump’s claim to “absolute” presidential immunity any day now, and the former president is upping his public pressure campaign for a favorable decision.

Early Thursday morning, Trump took to Truth Social to rant about the exemption he believes a president — or former president — should have from prosecution over crimes committed while in office. “EVEN EVENTS THAT ‘CROSS THE LINE’ MUST FALL UNDER TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD,” Trump wrote.

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The former president argued that without total blanket immunity, the chief executive would be stripped of the “authority and decisiveness” necessary to carry out their duties in office. “Sometimes you just have to live with ‘great but slightly imperfect,’” he wrote in the all-caps post.

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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 196 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Trump demands Biden to have complete presidential immunity for any acts against him

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 81 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Tomorrow's headline after Trump gets secreted away to a CIA prison: "Trump blacksited by Biden after promoting immunity for POTUS crimes. Irony lost on him."

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[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Seriously! I just wanna see one Dem call him on this and say "yup, you're right! so here's Biden with a car battery and jumper cables, an all-in-one water boarding set from Bed Bath & Beyond, a bucket of nails, and one 56 inch magnum dildo. what happens in the white house stays in the white house, ya know what I mean *nudge nudge wink wink!"

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 119 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I want stricter enforcement on anyone with power, not less. If you have the power to create and/or enforce the laws of the nation you should be held at a higher standard to uphold them.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This situation is just so crazy. We've had decades of the right wing frothing at the mouth against "big government" and "activist judges". Now that their god-king is reaching for absolute power they flip a 180 so hard they fall all over themselves to demand that we have a king instead of a country By The People, For The People.

I know that conservatives don't have morals or actually held beliefs: they have goals. Any time the world doesn't jive with their goals they'll take any position required to achieve the goal of the moment. I grew up with a right wing in the US that demanded liberty or death, but it seems that was all just a veneer over a goal to end democracy, topple the republic, and enshrine a king to rule over us all. The mask is off and a vote for Trump demonstrably makes you an enemy of the republic.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America has enshittified itself.

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 103 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Make no mistake, even if he loses the popular vote, Trump is going to take getting reelected as some kind of mandate to act as a dictator and do whatever he wants with the full power of the US government and military behind him.

Democracy will not survive another 4 years of this increasingly unhinged husk of a moron.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm just gonna leave this here...

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

So Dark Brandon can grab his Mossberg and legally start hunting #fascists?

Might want to think that through a bit more #GOP.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The GOP depends on the integrity of the Left to not stoop to their level even when given carte blanche to do so. They'll openly follow the rules as written, loopholes and all, while the rest of us are following the rules as intended in good faith. Obviously, they'll also bend or break the rules too, but they're usually not as open about that as Trump.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Presidents should have complete immunity!"

"Biden should be brought to court for what he does!"

Sooooo... Which one is it?

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Trump probably came up with this on the fly. And since there's more intelligence in a 10L bucket of semen, both him and his followers thinks this is an awesome idea

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So presidents can assassinate ex-presidents? I guess Joe knows what to do.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

This country does supposedly protect democracy, and Joe claims Trump is an enemy of democracy. What the fuck is he waiting for?

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[–] moshtradamus666@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Is he never going to suffer any kind of consequences for being so dirty and dishonest? As a non-American I'm really impressed by what is going on.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It'll just drag on until he eventually succumbs to his decades-long suicide by cheeseburger.

Then the DOJ put out a statement exclaiming "ah shucks, we were like this close to a conviction. We're just as frustrated as you are!"

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

Don’t forget raping

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump just said Biden has immunity to jail him for no reason at all! Thanks Trump!

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (11 children)

This idiot is really arguing that someone should be able to assassinate him without any consequences. That is the legal argument he's making.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Let's not forget that this bullshit actually killed at least one person.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

And

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

So who is responsible for the attack on January 6th?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

Biden death squads. Start with MAGA.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 39 points 9 months ago

IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD

Yes this is called the judicial system

[–] dharwin@kbin.social 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, Biden can just throw Trump in jail right now, or assassinate him? Cool, cool. Donny isn't too bright, is he.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's not hard to make an argument that he is a threat to national security.

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[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So… Biden has immunity to do whatever he sees fit regarding the punishment befitting a traitor to America?

FUCK YEAH!

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I doubt Biden has the will to use unbriddled power, even if he had the license to do it.

I think we all know that and just love our fantasies.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess he will never be able to arrest Biden for anything, no matter what he may do.

Hear that Biden? Trump gave you permission to just shoot him dead because you have immunity and can't be arrested for it as long as you do it while.president.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

I bet if Biden did shoot orange man, this type of presidential immunity would disappear.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"... YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD"

Based on this, why should anybody ever be charged with crimes? We should all be granted total immunity from any crimes ever committed, since potentially years of trauma could result from investigating anything that's done. We should just let bygones be bygones. Like that homeless guy that was killed in a hit&run incident on Sept 17th, 2006 at 12:31am, by some drunk driver who was never caught. We just need to move on guys, things happen, it's over and done with. Investigating that would just lead to years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

Oddly specific...

[–] athos77@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Like that homeless guy that was killed in a hit&run incident on Sept 17th, 2006 at 12:31am, by some drunk driver who was never caught.

That's very specific, OP. Is there anything you'd like to share?

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Aww, surely he didn't mean it exactly like he said it. We must give him the benefit of the doubt since he is a rich and respectable person who wouldn't say something like that."

"No, please. Do not give me the benefit of the doubt. I mean it - I WILL literally kill you if I get elected again."

"That could mean anything, surely he wouldn't imply that he would kill us if he got elected. He must have misspoken or meant something else."

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

“I should be able to get away with the things I swear I didn’t do”

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Every assertion is a confession.

“I crossed the line, don’t hold me accountable”.

No. Everyone is equal under the law. Must be.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What line?

I don't think there has been a line for a while.

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[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand how this is even in play. I thought the point of immunity was to prevent active members of government being arrested or prevented from doing their duty by minor or spurious charges while in office. The example was a congressman being pulled over on his way to an important vote. Trump doesn't have any duties anymore. The nation doesn't give a shit if he's in court or prison or whatever, so why should he be immune to anything? Now seems the perfect time to find out exactly what he's done.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I don't understand how this is even in play.

Me neither. Even active presidents only have immunity in very limited circumstances. 30-40 years ago this claim would have been brushed off immediately as utterly ridiculous. That anybody would spend 1 second considering this as a real claim shows how our legal system has degenerated.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So, what’s everyone’s plan if this fucking lunatic is allowed back in the White House?

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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's seeing what he can get away with by having his start point so far out.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This man says a lot of things

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago

Mister "lock her up" sure has changed his tune...

Not that it's surprising. He contradicts himself daily, and has done so for years.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

So, by this logic, Biden could have Trump imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay for life, Bonaparte style.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

You know what, let’s roll with it, let the Supreme Court approve it, and then have dark Brandon drop him in a volcano somewhere.

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