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Then-President Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

On a Nov. 17, 2020, phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look "terrible" if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results, according to the recordings.

"We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 199 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A crime. Trump was recorded, again, committing a crime.

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He grabbed them by the vote certification.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It doesn't count. It was just a locker room insurrection!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Oh there be some

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Uh, The Kraken Kunt.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Take one down, pass it around

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Ronna McDaniel was also on the call, making her an accomplice

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Crime isn’t a crime anymore.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

And again pushing other people to commit crimes for him

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 115 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Another blatant crime that we are all witness to. Another open-and-shut case that we'll still need to investigate for years for some fucking reason.

[–] LibertyLizard 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you come at the king, you best not miss.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you come at me you can pretty much lock me up for life with zero evidence by just never prosecuting me and forgetting I exist after arresting me because the cop didn't like my attitude.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you acknowledge him as a king, you've already lost.

[–] LibertyLizard 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s a reference to a tv show. The point is he is a powerful, influential, and dangerous person. A not guilty verdict will make him stronger and more vengeful. A careful, foolproof investigation is the best strategy to take him down.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

At least that's the excuse for slow walking every investigation.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 55 points 11 months ago

We will get you attorneys

And this was the moment they knew they had to sign the certification and bail out before they were in more problems.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh, they can idict Mc Daniel too, lol.

Damn the Republican party seems to be filled to the brim with criminals, don't it?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

There are two overlapping circles: criminals & grifters.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Alright Ronna, you've been facing MAGA pressure for your ouster the past few months, here's your chance to do the right thing (hell of an ask for a Republican) / get payback

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

Oh that's great news. This incontrovertible stuff is the good stuff.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Is this another perfect phone call?

[–] DrPop@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Inb4 "he never said not to certify it"

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

I had hoped Obama getting elected was going to really bolster unification and the progressive isolation and disarming of racist, bigoted, and hateful views that would ultimately enable continued progress through the election of a woman as president to re-establish the US as a beacon of hope and prosperity. Instead we are here.

These racist assholes need to go. Reagan would be demonized by current republicans. https://youtu.be/2R8QxCD6ir8?feature=shared