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[–] automattable@lemmy.world 110 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Hi, elder millennial here that’s starting to lose it. Is the joke here that they did do all these things back in 2006 or whenever tf2 came out?

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 92 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Pretty much yes. The only one I'm not 100% on (besides the scout skin, since that was after I stopped playing) is the engineer prosthetic. I feel like that weapon came out a while after TF2 was made (but I can't check that right now so don't take my word for it).

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jarate and heavy x medic were after release too afaik.

Heavy x medic was kinda obvious, but iirc valve didn't start dropping stronger hints until the past few years. Dunno if they've straight-up confirmed it yet or not; it's also been a while since I last played.

Jarate was part of the sniper update, which I thought came after release (because iirc there weren't any alternate items in the original release).

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I think jarate was introduced the same time they gave him a bow option

[–] MickeySwitcherooney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

99% sure Jarate was in the first big alt weapon patch, because it's the last patch I enjoyed playing lol. Bow, Sandvich, Bonk, etc. came out at the same time.

[–] B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

What's wrong with the alt weapons they're what made the game good

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Jarate must have been before 2011 when i first played tf2. and 2011 is almost 13 years ago.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Heavy x medic was kinda obvious

Outside of the game, maybe? I've played a ton of TF2 but never got involved in the outside memeing or story. In-game there's nothing obvious about any of them except Soldier sounds thick-as-pig-shit and Demo-man being black.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

His penis has always been prosthetic in lore, its just never shown.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago

One of the Engineer's unlockable weapons is the Gunslinger which is a prosthetic hand. It also is (or was) commonly regarded as OP since it replaced the turret with a fast self-building mini-turret that was a pain to keep destroyed (Engie would toss out another one).

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Especially the pissplay one, right?

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

You're correct
Demoman is the giveaway.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Am old, also out of the loop and would like someone to explain it to me in "grampa" terms.

I only remember TFC, and that was a long time ago

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The game was in its own way progressive and ahead of its time

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It still is. In TF2 the progressiveness doesn't come forced to appeal to some aduience with "look we put a black character in"

Demoman is a black scottish guy and fits perfectly eith all the misfit mercenaries.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ok still is. Wasn’t saying it isn’t currently but all these decisions were made like 15+ years ago. Hence “ahead of its time.” The implication is many of these decisions still hold up very well to scrutiny.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

Yes exactly

[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've never played tf2 (only played tf2), but based on the structure of the joke, I think so.

[–] bbpolterGAYst@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

im so glad that all of these WOKE LIBERAL SOCIALIST things are out of the game as it was released back in the GOOD days before EVIL GAY PEOPLE were in my videogames,. thank you gabe newell for making gaming real 🙏

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Women? Involved in video games?! Pssh, yeah, right...

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Evil gay people sounds kinda cool

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

My exes in their legion of doooooom

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Honey, wake up! The new hyperpop band name just dropped

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a high-res image for the femboy scout? Asking for a friend.

[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Weird. My friend had the same question.

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

If it was released today we'd have another rage from the "fucking pronouns" guy

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop making Valve sound so based

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

well, they seem quite based

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I legitimately don't think they could get away with releasing TF2 today.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone could get away with doing anything today. There's always something.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Then you just aren’t watching current media.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Have you ever played TF2? The content is definitely something that modern journalism would use to stir folks up if it was released in these times.

It's purposely rude and often uses stereotypes, but the point is that it's supposed to be cartoonishly ridiculous in its character depictions.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yes. I have played it since the orange box and still do occasionally. This is “you couldn’t make blazing saddles today” nonsense. The satire is and has been apparent for a long time in large part because Valve generally doesn’t punch down.

[–] closetfurry@yiffit.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love the arguement that you couldn't make blazing saddles today because if you handed the script to a producer, they'd take one look and go "we can't make this! This is just blazing saddles, and it came out years ago"

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Lol ok I’ll give you that. But I also think you get what I mean. There’s actually a fantastic video called that covers this issue incredibly well. I think you’ll really enjoy it.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't think it's the fact that people are too easily offended, if that's what you mean. It's good satire, to be sure. I just personally think that the amount of people who play a lot of video games are marketed towards these days may not be the crowd known for their.. critical thinking.

Plus, it's things like sensational journalism that I feel would be the ones to put out their opinion to outrage the masses. Again: I don't think that people are "too easily offended" or whatever these days. But many are easily swayed by mass media opinions. That's just my thought.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

At the very least people would be upset about the demoman's VA being white, and would probably try to claim that the demoman being an alcoholic has everything to do with racism and not the fact that he's supposed to be a Scottish stereotype. Tbh, other than that I'm not really sure what people would get upset about except maybe that there aren't any (known) playable female characters (iirc the pyro's gender is supposed to be androgenous and a mystery) and 8 out of 9 of the characters are white.

[–] v3x@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

I fail to see the issue here

[–] quams69@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I went back to tf2 after cs2 came out and I am so sad to see it totally infested by botters and aimhacks

It was valves crown jewel for a while and now it's just rotting

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

“I’m a black Scottish cyclops. They have more ************************** than they have the likes of me.”

[–] gullible@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

When’d they pull the heavy out of the closet?

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago