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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 262 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nice! And they will probably differentiate from the competition by allowing GPL applications and sideloading, and having a total control for your privacy and no tracking, right?

Right?

[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the beginning? Sure. Later? Well, you know, security and all, think of the kids!

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah and maybe Bezos will finally allow his workers to have bathroom breaks

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Check out these great special offers in GPL applications and sideloading!

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 190 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cool. Another OS to avoid.

[–] Cyberbatman@lemmings.world 41 points 1 year ago

This is the best description for everyone

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They want to harvest the data, without Google's control, and give none to Google.

[–] Laser@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That can be easily done with AOSP, to my knowledge there's no Google stuff in there. Which is exactly what they're using right now

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There still is some google stuff in there, like for example phoning google servers to check internet connectivity among other stuff.

[–] rentar42@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, but those minor traces are easy enough to remove, especially if you don't care about being "ceritified" by Google (i.e. are not planning to run the Google services).

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hahahaha cool, Linux with ads and tracking and all the spyware you could ever want.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gzrrt@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Minus the sandboxing and security improvements, apparently

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[–] Dettweiler42@lemmyonline.com 76 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it's going to be as terrible as their Fire OS.

[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 74 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The author is exited but I'm not. I am not a big fan of corporations taking the free work of FOSS developers and turning it into a proprietary dystopia.

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[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

A third competitor for Android and iOS would be amazing. But not if it's Amazon..

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/

https://pine64.com/product-category/smartphones/pinephone-pro/

There is already something in the works (that you can technically buy right now if you wanted), and it actively respects your freedom. Granted, as with everything in this ecosystem, its a very slow burn, so it'll be a while before the software is actually good, but it's already made massive strides from where it started.

I would say wait a bit and take a look at this later, but i do have one friend daily driving one now to some success (this wasn't possible a year ago).

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I just read an article about how they're increasing advertising on their Fire TVs. Rest assured, an Amazon OS is an Advertising OS.

Although, from what I've gathered of public opinion online, there's LOTS of people willing to forgo their privacy in exchange for free shit.

Edit: Oh...

They say they expect Vega to begin shipping on Fire TVs early next year.

And that article https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/after-luring-customers-with-low-prices-amazon-stuffs-fire-tvs-with-ads/

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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Windows Phone: Electric Boogaloo

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TL;DR Amazon is building a Linux distro that starts a chromium to run react native apps. Apparently, you need hundreds of people for that.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh so I won’t be able to sideload streaming APKs onto any new Amazon devices? Guess you can fucking keep your shit hardware then

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apps are going to be written in React Native

So despite the desire for one, Vega won’t be an Android-killer, won’t bring an influx of big name apps to benefit regular Linux distros, nor see Amazon do something crazy cool like create its own Linux tablet UI.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how much overhead Electron apps are? Well, here's React Native! Enjoy all the annoyances of mobile development with the ugliest that is React!

(I kid. Or am I?)

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Apps are going to be written in React Native

Idk if I'm the only person who thinks this, but I feel like React has gotten worse over the last couple of major versions. Not only does the code look a lot messier when you use their new syntax, but the end result seems unreliable. Facebook is barely even usable now. Their history management is laughable, and it'll drop you out of the site randomly when using the back buttons. I used to think React was really neat, but I'm not a big fan anymore. There's too much re-engineering for problems that were solved decades ago.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

oh great, yet another platform that will use free software to restrict what people can do with their computing devices 🤮

how is this supposed to be a good thing? 🙄

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LMFAO, can't wait to see Adbuntu.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Amazon out here thinking “could you imagine how much cheap garbage we could try to sell people if we can harvest literally all of the data directly?”

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Amazon can't make TVs or ereades without filling them to the brim with ads and spyware like the greedy shits they are, I dont want to think about how screwed up their OS would be. As much as I sneer at Microsoft and windows BS as a snobby Linux user I get the impression amazon would be way worse and make Ol Gatey boy say 'have a little class, would you?'

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[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

These tentacular megacorporations are a problem. Amazon is OK as a merchant, MS as an OS developer, Google as a search engine... If they do vertical integration the market is corrupted.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, they can have fun with that. I can't imagine it being anything decent. A mobile phone equivalent of a DVD Player OS lol

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Equivalent of a DVD player OS" is now my go-to insult for a bad OS.

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[–] fury@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Good luck getting all the developers to rewrite their apps. The only reason you had any apps was because it was based on Android so it was little to no effort to port. Going plain ol' embedded Linux is basically the death knell of your developer story. Source: been there, had no third party apps, switched to Android

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already tried an Amazon Fire tablet, Amazon. No thanks. I returned it. I don't need a locked-down console that spies on me. Windows is well on its way to becoming that already.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

Absolutely hell no.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing I care about in this is if they will contribute anything back to the open source ecosystem, be it code or anything else.

[–] wfh@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

No chance. Amazon has a long history of using a ton of FOSS code on AWS and contributing fuck-all.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

if it's anything like amazon linux on ec2 i'll pass

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[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I know it won't happen, but it'd be nice if Linux switched to GPLv3. That would at least help somewhat here

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[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 16 points 1 year ago

Nice try Amazon. I'm not falling for it.

[–] guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Probably because it is stupid simple to escape their ecosystem just by sideloading apps. They want to lock you down with their own OS.

[–] xohshoo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mixed blessing of GPLv2

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[–] Valon_Blue@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All I'm hearing is that we might be able to hack these devices and put full Linux on them.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the chances this will not produce wrong doing?

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